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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2010/03/10/never-lose-your-car-again/comment-page-1/#comment-57757</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your other commenters mentioned the disadvantages of this ECCO.

The biggest advantage of having a separate unit is that the GPS device has its own battery and doesn&#039;t drain your smartphone battery.  This is particularly interesting if the GPS device has data logging capability and stays on all the time, since it&#039;s much easier (needs less signal power from satellites) to maintain a lock than to acquire a new one, so its quite possible to get a location if the GPS already had a lock, while it may take minutes or even hours to acquire one.

There are other similar devices that are much cheaper:

Bushnell Backtrack (http://www.bushnell.com/products/gps/backtrack/)
Grand daddy of cheap simple waypoint finder gps devices.  Larger than keychain.

Navin miniHomer (http://www.semsons.com/namiwagpspof.html)
Less than half the cost, waterproof, supports datalogging.  User interface isn&#039;t as simple though.

GlobalSat GD-101 GPS Director (http://www.semsons.com/glgdgpsdi.html)
About half the cost, waterproof.  User interface isn&#039;t as simple and its a lot larger than keychain size.  GlobalSat&#039;s is not a newcomer to GPS devices.

Navibe BackTrack GPS (http://www.buygpsnow.com/Navibe_BackTrack_GPS.aspx)
Less than half the cost, waterproof, temperature.  User interface is not as simple and its a lot larger than keychain size.  This is a rebranded QStarz QFinder GF-Q900, QStarz has been around the block too.

An alternative idea: GPS tracker.  You can get a GPS tracker with cellular interface for roughly $150-$200.  You can send it a message and get back its current location.  Never have to remember to hit a button when you leave the car (on the other hand, maybe car is in poor cell signal area), but you need a second GPS device to find your car, but that device could be your phone (but then, maybe poor GPS reception won&#039;t allow your phone to acquire a lock).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your other commenters mentioned the disadvantages of this ECCO.</p>
<p>The biggest advantage of having a separate unit is that the GPS device has its own battery and doesn&#8217;t drain your smartphone battery.  This is particularly interesting if the GPS device has data logging capability and stays on all the time, since it&#8217;s much easier (needs less signal power from satellites) to maintain a lock than to acquire a new one, so its quite possible to get a location if the GPS already had a lock, while it may take minutes or even hours to acquire one.</p>
<p>There are other similar devices that are much cheaper:</p>
<p>Bushnell Backtrack (<a href="http://www.bushnell.com/products/gps/backtrack/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bushnell.com/products/gps/backtrack/</a>)<br />
Grand daddy of cheap simple waypoint finder gps devices.  Larger than keychain.</p>
<p>Navin miniHomer (<a href="http://www.semsons.com/namiwagpspof.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.semsons.com/namiwagpspof.html</a>)<br />
Less than half the cost, waterproof, supports datalogging.  User interface isn&#8217;t as simple though.</p>
<p>GlobalSat GD-101 GPS Director (<a href="http://www.semsons.com/glgdgpsdi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.semsons.com/glgdgpsdi.html</a>)<br />
About half the cost, waterproof.  User interface isn&#8217;t as simple and its a lot larger than keychain size.  GlobalSat&#8217;s is not a newcomer to GPS devices.</p>
<p>Navibe BackTrack GPS (<a href="http://www.buygpsnow.com/Navibe_BackTrack_GPS.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.buygpsnow.com/Navibe_BackTrack_GPS.aspx</a>)<br />
Less than half the cost, waterproof, temperature.  User interface is not as simple and its a lot larger than keychain size.  This is a rebranded QStarz QFinder GF-Q900, QStarz has been around the block too.</p>
<p>An alternative idea: GPS tracker.  You can get a GPS tracker with cellular interface for roughly $150-$200.  You can send it a message and get back its current location.  Never have to remember to hit a button when you leave the car (on the other hand, maybe car is in poor cell signal area), but you need a second GPS device to find your car, but that device could be your phone (but then, maybe poor GPS reception won&#8217;t allow your phone to acquire a lock).</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2010/03/10/never-lose-your-car-again/comment-page-1/#comment-57753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - Great point there....  my BB provider in the UK is T-Mobile.  It&#039;s definitely not the best provider and loses it&#039;s signal quite often!  

@Andrew - Point taken.  Although, I think if you park in an underground car park or multi story you&#039;d have a better idea of where you parked as most floors are numbered.  Plus, they&#039;re typically not as large/wide compared to a normal outside car park, where it would be much harder to locate your vehicle.  I do think the ECCO would struggle underground though, for sure!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; Great point there&#8230;.  my BB provider in the UK is T-Mobile.  It&#8217;s definitely not the best provider and loses it&#8217;s signal quite often!  </p>
<p>@Andrew &#8211; Point taken.  Although, I think if you park in an underground car park or multi story you&#8217;d have a better idea of where you parked as most floors are numbered.  Plus, they&#8217;re typically not as large/wide compared to a normal outside car park, where it would be much harder to locate your vehicle.  I do think the ECCO would struggle underground though, for sure!  <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay- it doesn&#039;t matter how quick a unit will lock onto a signal if the signal is not there (as in a multi-story or underground car park). The GPS signal is extremely weak and it takes very little to block it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay- it doesn&#8217;t matter how quick a unit will lock onto a signal if the signal is not there (as in a multi-story or underground car park). The GPS signal is extremely weak and it takes very little to block it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All - the good news is that this is usable where cell phones are not. Try leaving your car at the top of a mountain and hiking around for a few hours.. finding your way with a cell phone would be impossible unless you&#039;ve got reception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All &#8211; the good news is that this is usable where cell phones are not. Try leaving your car at the top of a mountain and hiking around for a few hours.. finding your way with a cell phone would be impossible unless you&#8217;ve got reception.</p>
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		<title>By: gheymann</title>
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		<dc:creator>gheymann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jay Not a Blackberry user but a quick check reveals 
Car Finder by Neosistic  http://ow.ly/1h23S  there maybe others as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jay Not a Blackberry user but a quick check reveals<br />
Car Finder by Neosistic  <a href="http://ow.ly/1h23S" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1h23S</a>  there maybe others as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark - Here is the link for the item on the site, it&#039;s available at the moment: http://www.firebox.com/product/2387/ECCO-GPS-Keychain?via=cat

@gheymann - At the moment, I&#039;m not an Android, or iPhone owner... Blackberry yes, so unless there&#039;s a BB app I can use that would save some $$&#039;s then I&#039;d opt for this.  

@Damian - Although I haven&#039;t reviewed it, I&#039;m guessing it may lock onto to a GPS signal pretty quickly... plus, I have kids and have to sort out a few things before I get out of the car anyway, so by the time I&#039;m ready to go shopping or whatever, the signal will be locked in.  I guess everyone is different though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark &#8211; Here is the link for the item on the site, it&#8217;s available at the moment: <a href="http://www.firebox.com/product/2387/ECCO-GPS-Keychain?via=cat" rel="nofollow">http://www.firebox.com/product/2387/ECCO-GPS-Keychain?via=cat</a></p>
<p>@gheymann &#8211; At the moment, I&#8217;m not an Android, or iPhone owner&#8230; Blackberry yes, so unless there&#8217;s a BB app I can use that would save some $$&#8217;s then I&#8217;d opt for this.  </p>
<p>@Damian &#8211; Although I haven&#8217;t reviewed it, I&#8217;m guessing it may lock onto to a GPS signal pretty quickly&#8230; plus, I have kids and have to sort out a few things before I get out of the car anyway, so by the time I&#8217;m ready to go shopping or whatever, the signal will be locked in.  I guess everyone is different though!</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a pretty awesome little GPSr unit! Too bad that it will not work in the main place it would be useful: multi level shopping centre car parks! Also in reality you would get out of your car and then need to wait for a minute or two  for the thing to get a location lock before you could record where you are leaving your car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a pretty awesome little GPSr unit! Too bad that it will not work in the main place it would be useful: multi level shopping centre car parks! Also in reality you would get out of your car and then need to wait for a minute or two  for the thing to get a location lock before you could record where you are leaving your car.</p>
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		<title>By: gheymann</title>
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		<dc:creator>gheymann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-OR- if you have android or Iphone install a car locator app  that basically does the exact same thing. Prices range from free to $3.99 save $$$ 

PROFIT :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-OR- if you have android or Iphone install a car locator app  that basically does the exact same thing. Prices range from free to $3.99 save $$$ </p>
<p>PROFIT <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firebox states it&#039;s not an active item on their web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firebox states it&#8217;s not an active item on their web site.</p>
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