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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-E-W-A-R-E !!!   WHITE CLOUD CIGARETTES CUSTOMER SERVICE SUCKS.  THEY HAVE ONLY A THREE-DAY RETURN POLICY AND NOW MATTER WHAT, THEY WILL NOT BEND THIS RULE.  THE PRODUCT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND THEY WILL NOT HELP.  DOESN&#039;T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A RECEIPT OR NOT, THEY DON&#039;T CARE.  DON&#039;T BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PRODUCT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-E-W-A-R-E !!!   WHITE CLOUD CIGARETTES CUSTOMER SERVICE SUCKS.  THEY HAVE ONLY A THREE-DAY RETURN POLICY AND NOW MATTER WHAT, THEY WILL NOT BEND THIS RULE.  THE PRODUCT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND THEY WILL NOT HELP.  DOESN&#8217;T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A RECEIPT OR NOT, THEY DON&#8217;T CARE.  DON&#8217;T BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PRODUCT!</p>
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		<title>By: sherri</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-98615</link>
		<dc:creator>sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using the cirrus 1 and 11 for almost a year now and love it, it is pricey but to me worth it.The main issues I have had has been buying cartridges and some of them have not worked at all, it was like sucking on a blocked straw, and issues with the chargers not working they blink and turn green in about five minutes or stay red or green all the time, I never know if the cig is fully charged or not, I have returned it once and two weeks later that one started messing up, you dont wanna feel like a pain constantly complaining but for what you spend you have a right! so far they have worked with me thru these issues, i havent been back after the last charger i bought, even tho its messing up. Plus they lost all my information on the warranty ect. but all in all i love the cig. one more thing, they shouldnt use ups it takes 5 days for me to get my cartridges when in regular mail it would take three not sure why they do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using the cirrus 1 and 11 for almost a year now and love it, it is pricey but to me worth it.The main issues I have had has been buying cartridges and some of them have not worked at all, it was like sucking on a blocked straw, and issues with the chargers not working they blink and turn green in about five minutes or stay red or green all the time, I never know if the cig is fully charged or not, I have returned it once and two weeks later that one started messing up, you dont wanna feel like a pain constantly complaining but for what you spend you have a right! so far they have worked with me thru these issues, i havent been back after the last charger i bought, even tho its messing up. Plus they lost all my information on the warranty ect. but all in all i love the cig. one more thing, they shouldnt use ups it takes 5 days for me to get my cartridges when in regular mail it would take three not sure why they do that.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I cant brlieve the audacity of such idiotic ststements saying nicotine is not harmful. Nicotine has an LD-50 of 0.5mg/kg, meaning as little as 20mg is enough to kill an adult. The author says in a comment that people should do some research about it and how it isnt harmful? Really? What f*cking planet did that complete moron come from? He should do HIS research before publishing such dangerous lies that could very well cause the death of a reader. The LD-50 of CYANIDE is between 100 to 200 mg/kg depending on the type (potassium etc). Meaning it takes 200 to 400 times MORE cyanide to kill a person than nicotine. Yeah... nicotine isnt harmful my ass... This author should be fired and an official statement should be made about his erroneous and false information about the poison known as nicotine that is on average 300x more deadly than cyanide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I cant brlieve the audacity of such idiotic ststements saying nicotine is not harmful. Nicotine has an LD-50 of 0.5mg/kg, meaning as little as 20mg is enough to kill an adult. The author says in a comment that people should do some research about it and how it isnt harmful? Really? What f*cking planet did that complete moron come from? He should do HIS research before publishing such dangerous lies that could very well cause the death of a reader. The LD-50 of CYANIDE is between 100 to 200 mg/kg depending on the type (potassium etc). Meaning it takes 200 to 400 times MORE cyanide to kill a person than nicotine. Yeah&#8230; nicotine isnt harmful my ass&#8230; This author should be fired and an official statement should be made about his erroneous and false information about the poison known as nicotine that is on average 300x more deadly than cyanide.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanequa</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-96741</link>
		<dc:creator>Shanequa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got this today and have not wanted a cig since the first vape puff. I am using the vanilla flavor currently, and it is pretty tasty. I would like to rebutt some comments where misinformed people are claiming nicotine is not harmful... Nicotine itself is deadly. There is enough nicotine in an average sized cigar to kill 10 adults. However, when smoking the cigar, the combustion process destroys the majority of the nicotine and only a minute amount ever gets into the bloodstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got this today and have not wanted a cig since the first vape puff. I am using the vanilla flavor currently, and it is pretty tasty. I would like to rebutt some comments where misinformed people are claiming nicotine is not harmful&#8230; Nicotine itself is deadly. There is enough nicotine in an average sized cigar to kill 10 adults. However, when smoking the cigar, the combustion process destroys the majority of the nicotine and only a minute amount ever gets into the bloodstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-93904</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed with Tim&#039;s review. You can buy a cheaper price batteries and use WhiteCloud&#039;s cartridges if you like them so much. And NO I would not pay a 250 dollars price just for just &quot;good&quot; customer&#039;s services. For 250 dollars I can buy at least 5 quality brand batteries that will last quite a while that I really don&#039;t need the customer&#039;s service!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed with Tim&#8217;s review. You can buy a cheaper price batteries and use WhiteCloud&#8217;s cartridges if you like them so much. And NO I would not pay a 250 dollars price just for just &#8220;good&#8221; customer&#8217;s services. For 250 dollars I can buy at least 5 quality brand batteries that will last quite a while that I really don&#8217;t need the customer&#8217;s service!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-93685</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had high hope for this product but what a disappointment!!! The vapor is terrible and the product way over price for just the battery! I have to take several small puffs every time to get a descent amount of vapors.  The flavor cartridges is not that great tasting, that&#039;s my taste preferences, everyone has their own taste differences. Now I have used several other products such as Smoke51, eSmoke, V2 Cigs, Blu, and another brand that is not very popular to mention. Yes, I&#039;m in search for the best E-Cigs. And I have to say, WhiteCloud is just a waste of money! If you really want to try WhiteCloud e-cigs, this is what you should do, buy V2 cigs affordable low price battery and then purchase WhiteCloud smoke cartridges. Their smoke cartridges will fit V2 cigs&#039; batteries. This way you buy V2 and WhiteClouds cartridges and just use V2&#039;s batteries. That&#039;s all you need to do to and it will save you 5 times the price! And from my experiences eSmoke has been the best. They produce great vapors and the coffee flavor cartridges is the best! And eSmoke and Smoke51 batteries will work with either of their smoke flavor cartridges. Their batteries are a bit smaller in diameter then WhiteCloud and V2&#039;s. So my recommendation is not to buy WhiteCloud starter kit but just to buy their smoke flavor cartridges if you want to give them a try. If you are long time e-cigs smoker like me...you&#039;ll kick yourself for buying WC&#039;s starter kit! Oh one more thing, the Cirrus II claims that the batteries will quickly charges as fast as 50 minutes...it&#039;s totally not true! It took me over 2 hours, almost the same time as my other batteries brand to fully charge. Take my advise ... you won&#039;t regret it But it&#039;ll save you money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had high hope for this product but what a disappointment!!! The vapor is terrible and the product way over price for just the battery! I have to take several small puffs every time to get a descent amount of vapors.  The flavor cartridges is not that great tasting, that&#8217;s my taste preferences, everyone has their own taste differences. Now I have used several other products such as Smoke51, eSmoke, V2 Cigs, Blu, and another brand that is not very popular to mention. Yes, I&#8217;m in search for the best E-Cigs. And I have to say, WhiteCloud is just a waste of money! If you really want to try WhiteCloud e-cigs, this is what you should do, buy V2 cigs affordable low price battery and then purchase WhiteCloud smoke cartridges. Their smoke cartridges will fit V2 cigs&#8217; batteries. This way you buy V2 and WhiteClouds cartridges and just use V2&#8242;s batteries. That&#8217;s all you need to do to and it will save you 5 times the price! And from my experiences eSmoke has been the best. They produce great vapors and the coffee flavor cartridges is the best! And eSmoke and Smoke51 batteries will work with either of their smoke flavor cartridges. Their batteries are a bit smaller in diameter then WhiteCloud and V2&#8242;s. So my recommendation is not to buy WhiteCloud starter kit but just to buy their smoke flavor cartridges if you want to give them a try. If you are long time e-cigs smoker like me&#8230;you&#8217;ll kick yourself for buying WC&#8217;s starter kit! Oh one more thing, the Cirrus II claims that the batteries will quickly charges as fast as 50 minutes&#8230;it&#8217;s totally not true! It took me over 2 hours, almost the same time as my other batteries brand to fully charge. Take my advise &#8230; you won&#8217;t regret it But it&#8217;ll save you money!</p>
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		<title>By: AJ REPP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ REPP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,
I&#039;m sorry that you had a not so good experience with the customer service aspect of things. That us truly unfortunate. I say that because I have never heard a single complaint from anyone in these regards. But I suppose that no company can have a perfect track record. I wish there was something I could do to help. But what I can try to do for you is contact them myself and let you know the outcome. 

I thank you for taking the time to read my review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry that you had a not so good experience with the customer service aspect of things. That us truly unfortunate. I say that because I have never heard a single complaint from anyone in these regards. But I suppose that no company can have a perfect track record. I wish there was something I could do to help. But what I can try to do for you is contact them myself and let you know the outcome. </p>
<p>I thank you for taking the time to read my review.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using the White Cloud cigarettes for about 6 weeks now. My only complaint is that the USB charger that came with my kit failed after 30 days. The mall kiosk switched it out for another USB charger. That charger failed after 2 weeks. The mall kiosk refused to switch it again unless I purchased the $30 extended warranty, otherwise I must mail the charger in for replacement (and the initial warranty on the charger is only 6 months). Who wants to be without a charger for a week or so, given the addictive nature of the product? My husband went ahead and bought another charger, and while he was there, yet another customer showed up and their charger failed after 2 weeks. I have complained to White Cloud customer service, and they deny that there is a problem with the chargers. In all fairness, they did offer to mail me a replacement charger before they received by defective one, but they refuse to offer the convenience of exchanging them at the kiosk. Bad customer relations, if you ask me, especially since there are 2 users in my house and we will buy 6-8 packs of cartridges per month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using the White Cloud cigarettes for about 6 weeks now. My only complaint is that the USB charger that came with my kit failed after 30 days. The mall kiosk switched it out for another USB charger. That charger failed after 2 weeks. The mall kiosk refused to switch it again unless I purchased the $30 extended warranty, otherwise I must mail the charger in for replacement (and the initial warranty on the charger is only 6 months). Who wants to be without a charger for a week or so, given the addictive nature of the product? My husband went ahead and bought another charger, and while he was there, yet another customer showed up and their charger failed after 2 weeks. I have complained to White Cloud customer service, and they deny that there is a problem with the chargers. In all fairness, they did offer to mail me a replacement charger before they received by defective one, but they refuse to offer the convenience of exchanging them at the kiosk. Bad customer relations, if you ask me, especially since there are 2 users in my house and we will buy 6-8 packs of cartridges per month.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkfloydian</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-63820</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinkfloydian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried lots of e-cigs before, and I found that the White Cloud ones are primo! I bought a brand new Cirrus II kit from White Cloud, and it was the best thing I could have ever done to kick the cigs to the curb for good. I found a kiosk at a local mall, the guy working was very knowledgeable about e-cigs, and was upfront with me about everything. Yeah people say that the Cirrus I came from a KR-808 battery or whatever, but go ahead and buy one and see if it works with their carts. It probably won&#039;t. I ended up buying the Cirrus II kit which was even more money, but it was so easy to use and incredibly easy to stop smoking regular cigarettes. When my battery needs charged, its about 50-60 min to recharge it, not 3 hours as it was stated in the review. So go ahead and buy a cheap imitation, refill your generic cartridges and see what happens. I&#039;ll stick with my Cirrus, be backed with the warranty and customer service from White Cloud and know that I&#039;m covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried lots of e-cigs before, and I found that the White Cloud ones are primo! I bought a brand new Cirrus II kit from White Cloud, and it was the best thing I could have ever done to kick the cigs to the curb for good. I found a kiosk at a local mall, the guy working was very knowledgeable about e-cigs, and was upfront with me about everything. Yeah people say that the Cirrus I came from a KR-808 battery or whatever, but go ahead and buy one and see if it works with their carts. It probably won&#8217;t. I ended up buying the Cirrus II kit which was even more money, but it was so easy to use and incredibly easy to stop smoking regular cigarettes. When my battery needs charged, its about 50-60 min to recharge it, not 3 hours as it was stated in the review. So go ahead and buy a cheap imitation, refill your generic cartridges and see what happens. I&#8217;ll stick with my Cirrus, be backed with the warranty and customer service from White Cloud and know that I&#8217;m covered.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-63725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed Criterion&#039;s comments above.  Yes, the White Cloud is a glorified KR808 retailing for $40.  I didn&#039;t want to come right out and say it, but glad someone did.  I ordered one to check.  It&#039;s exactly the same.  Kind of makes me feel icky inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed Criterion&#8217;s comments above.  Yes, the White Cloud is a glorified KR808 retailing for $40.  I didn&#8217;t want to come right out and say it, but glad someone did.  I ordered one to check.  It&#8217;s exactly the same.  Kind of makes me feel icky inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-63724</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit tobacco the day I got an e-cig.  After 16 years of smoking 2 packs a day.  I&#039;m still using the e-cigs, and I&#039;m already at the lowest level of nicotine.  I smell better, I feel better, I have more energy, no more tight chest when I wake up.  As for White Cloud, I have one.  From my experience, the customer service is less then stellar.  There is way better product out there at a much better price point.  Check out the KR808, the Joye 510, and many more.  Also, check out the e-cig forum before you make a decision.  
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/
It&#039;s a great bunch of real users posting comments of the products they have tried.  I&#039;ve learned a lot from those folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit tobacco the day I got an e-cig.  After 16 years of smoking 2 packs a day.  I&#8217;m still using the e-cigs, and I&#8217;m already at the lowest level of nicotine.  I smell better, I feel better, I have more energy, no more tight chest when I wake up.  As for White Cloud, I have one.  From my experience, the customer service is less then stellar.  There is way better product out there at a much better price point.  Check out the KR808, the Joye 510, and many more.  Also, check out the e-cig forum before you make a decision.<br />
<a href="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/</a><br />
It&#8217;s a great bunch of real users posting comments of the products they have tried.  I&#8217;ve learned a lot from those folks.</p>
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		<title>By: ciera</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-61502</link>
		<dc:creator>ciera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studied the e-cigs on the net for 2 months - went with the Vapor4Life.  Love them!!!!  I quit smoking regular cigarettes in FOUR days!!!!  That was after trying EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE - patches, gum, hypnosis, pills, - you name it, I tried it.  Nothing worked.  Forty-four years and 2 packs of cigarettes a day!!!!  The first day with my Vapor4Life I smoked 4 regular cigarettes, by day 2 down to 2 cigarettes and did that for the next couple of days.  After 4 days I was off the cigarettes completely and haven&#039;t had one in over 6 months!!!  I am also now on the lowest nicotine level of the cartomizer (4mg) plus don&#039;t use it nearly as often as I smoked a cigarette!!!!  Once you find the flavor you like - you have it made!  These may have the manual button (that I didn&#039;t like at first) but the batteries last longer with the manual button!!!  You get used to it fairly quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studied the e-cigs on the net for 2 months &#8211; went with the Vapor4Life.  Love them!!!!  I quit smoking regular cigarettes in FOUR days!!!!  That was after trying EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE &#8211; patches, gum, hypnosis, pills, &#8211; you name it, I tried it.  Nothing worked.  Forty-four years and 2 packs of cigarettes a day!!!!  The first day with my Vapor4Life I smoked 4 regular cigarettes, by day 2 down to 2 cigarettes and did that for the next couple of days.  After 4 days I was off the cigarettes completely and haven&#8217;t had one in over 6 months!!!  I am also now on the lowest nicotine level of the cartomizer (4mg) plus don&#8217;t use it nearly as often as I smoked a cigarette!!!!  Once you find the flavor you like &#8211; you have it made!  These may have the manual button (that I didn&#8217;t like at first) but the batteries last longer with the manual button!!!  You get used to it fairly quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-59668</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know what your talking about with that kr-808d model but ill tell you with the whitecloud name not only do you get a quality product that last but you get customer service that will take care of any issue that occurs. if u want to buy one overseas then go for it but if u want to buy from a company that imports, distributes and actually backs there product up fully then white cloud is the name to go i love the product and everything they do to satisfy us customers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know what your talking about with that kr-808d model but ill tell you with the whitecloud name not only do you get a quality product that last but you get customer service that will take care of any issue that occurs. if u want to buy one overseas then go for it but if u want to buy from a company that imports, distributes and actually backs there product up fully then white cloud is the name to go i love the product and everything they do to satisfy us customers</p>
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		<title>By: Criterion</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57296</link>
		<dc:creator>Criterion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A.J. you say &quot;And yes you are right, there are some other products out there that are less expensive. But alot of the other products are not as high quality as the cirrus white cloud.&quot;
but I&#039;d like to point out to you that the e-cig you paid $189 (!) for is nothing more than a rebranded KR-808D cartomizer e-cig that is widely available for around $45 for the same kit, which is 2 batteries, 5 or so cartomizers and a charger. Extra cartomizers run about $9 for a 5 pack, and are commonly refilled using standard e-cig juice by users. They are good units, but White Cloud is nothing but a reseller of the KR-808D units. They don&#039;t make them, they just silkscreen their name on them and package them. This is not a guess by me about what it is, it&#039;s known by many what model it is. If you feel better paying their price, well, have fun with that. I&#039;ll take the cheaper one without the advertisement silkscreened on it for a quarter the price. 

Basically, in short, you ARE using one of those less expensive products, it&#039;s just had a label slapped on it and sold to you at 4 times the price. Still behind the company that did that to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.J. you say &#8220;And yes you are right, there are some other products out there that are less expensive. But alot of the other products are not as high quality as the cirrus white cloud.&#8221;<br />
but I&#8217;d like to point out to you that the e-cig you paid $189 (!) for is nothing more than a rebranded KR-808D cartomizer e-cig that is widely available for around $45 for the same kit, which is 2 batteries, 5 or so cartomizers and a charger. Extra cartomizers run about $9 for a 5 pack, and are commonly refilled using standard e-cig juice by users. They are good units, but White Cloud is nothing but a reseller of the KR-808D units. They don&#8217;t make them, they just silkscreen their name on them and package them. This is not a guess by me about what it is, it&#8217;s known by many what model it is. If you feel better paying their price, well, have fun with that. I&#8217;ll take the cheaper one without the advertisement silkscreened on it for a quarter the price. </p>
<p>Basically, in short, you ARE using one of those less expensive products, it&#8217;s just had a label slapped on it and sold to you at 4 times the price. Still behind the company that did that to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-56066</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well ant, i would assume about the same amount of time it takes to smoke a reg cig, for me that is about 5 minutes..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well ant, i would assume about the same amount of time it takes to smoke a reg cig, for me that is about 5 minutes..</p>
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		<title>By: ant</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-48799</link>
		<dc:creator>ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the cirrus whitecloud alot and it seems so great but the only real con i am faced with is since i can smoke it anywhere ive been smoking it always and im told its 40 cigarettes in one cartrige but i havent been smoking it as a normal cigarette i carry it around all the time and am constantly smoking on it not excessively too the point of a maniac but alot its the second day ive been smoking on the same cart does anyone have any suggestions or comments on how long it will last or how i can be sure when ive smoked &quot;1&quot; cigarettes worth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the cirrus whitecloud alot and it seems so great but the only real con i am faced with is since i can smoke it anywhere ive been smoking it always and im told its 40 cigarettes in one cartrige but i havent been smoking it as a normal cigarette i carry it around all the time and am constantly smoking on it not excessively too the point of a maniac but alot its the second day ive been smoking on the same cart does anyone have any suggestions or comments on how long it will last or how i can be sure when ive smoked &#8220;1&#8243; cigarettes worth</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-47712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this post when it first came out and ended up getting a Vapor King from Vapor4life.com. Its been a really good experience and I havent touched a reg cig since I got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this post when it first came out and ended up getting a Vapor King from Vapor4life.com. Its been a really good experience and I havent touched a reg cig since I got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Murray</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-47672</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve ordered from the company you&#039;re recommending and had a battery issue.  I then asked them for a RMA authorization # to send back the product and they said they wouldn&#039;t be able to do that for me and further told me if they did I would have to pay for shipping and an additiional cost for handling.  Wait until you have a problem with a battery with this company and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll change your tune.  I&#039;ll stick with White Cloud Cigarettes any day of the week, I&#039;ve dropped 2 batteries in a puddle of water (fell off my ear while bending over) and they took care of everything and I told them exactly what happened.  You get what you pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve ordered from the company you&#8217;re recommending and had a battery issue.  I then asked them for a RMA authorization # to send back the product and they said they wouldn&#8217;t be able to do that for me and further told me if they did I would have to pay for shipping and an additiional cost for handling.  Wait until you have a problem with a battery with this company and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll change your tune.  I&#8217;ll stick with White Cloud Cigarettes any day of the week, I&#8217;ve dropped 2 batteries in a puddle of water (fell off my ear while bending over) and they took care of everything and I told them exactly what happened.  You get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Jil</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-46041</link>
		<dc:creator>Jil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Electronic Cigarettes are better quality and unique compared to most brands available a year ago. For example the new electronic cigarettes from Cigana(the leading selling E-cigs) don&#039;t have typical filters. What they do have is cartridges and their instructions say that one Cigana cartridge lasts an estimated 15 cigarettes depending on how you smoke, but they last around 12 to 14 smokes for me. The only reason I wrote this is because the last electronic cigarette I had sucked and lasted maybe 4 smokes per cartridge and stopped working after 5 weeks. Don&#039;t be suckered. That said, I bought mine direct at: http://www.CiganaDirect.com after I found out their cartridges are the longest lasting through my searching the net. Because cartridges can get expensive, some sites say you should change them every two days. others say after five smokes... I&#039;ll stick with Cigana or maybe another leading brand from a smoke shop with a good warrantee. Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Electronic Cigarettes are better quality and unique compared to most brands available a year ago. For example the new electronic cigarettes from Cigana(the leading selling E-cigs) don&#8217;t have typical filters. What they do have is cartridges and their instructions say that one Cigana cartridge lasts an estimated 15 cigarettes depending on how you smoke, but they last around 12 to 14 smokes for me. The only reason I wrote this is because the last electronic cigarette I had sucked and lasted maybe 4 smokes per cartridge and stopped working after 5 weeks. Don&#8217;t be suckered. That said, I bought mine direct at: <a href="http://www.CiganaDirect.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CiganaDirect.com</a> after I found out their cartridges are the longest lasting through my searching the net. Because cartridges can get expensive, some sites say you should change them every two days. others say after five smokes&#8230; I&#8217;ll stick with Cigana or maybe another leading brand from a smoke shop with a good warrantee. Good Luck</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-46011</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another good review I found for this electronic cigarette:

http://www.ecigarettes365.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=3162&amp;p=3466#p3466

--Owen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another good review I found for this electronic cigarette:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ecigarettes365.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&#038;t=3162&#038;p=3466#p3466" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecigarettes365.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&#038;t=3162&#038;p=3466#p3466</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Owen</p>
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		<title>By: James Branch</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-46003</link>
		<dc:creator>James Branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father used something very similar when he stopped smoking and it worked so well, he went from smoking 10 cigars and a few cigarettes a day to nothing at all !  He smoked for about 25 years and now, he doesn&#039;t smoke at all.  I think it&#039;s a great idea and if it gets you away from the addiction of smoking, well I&#039;m all for it!  In the UK, packets of cigarettes now have pictures on the box of people with tumours, or a picture of a diseased body part, caused by smoking and this seems to have helped reduce the number of people who smoke.  Also, pubs &amp; clubs have now banned smoking and people who wish to light up now need to do it outside and this also seems to have helpded.

A.J. - Good luck and I hope you can soon kick the habit completely!

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father used something very similar when he stopped smoking and it worked so well, he went from smoking 10 cigars and a few cigarettes a day to nothing at all !  He smoked for about 25 years and now, he doesn&#8217;t smoke at all.  I think it&#8217;s a great idea and if it gets you away from the addiction of smoking, well I&#8217;m all for it!  In the UK, packets of cigarettes now have pictures on the box of people with tumours, or a picture of a diseased body part, caused by smoking and this seems to have helped reduce the number of people who smoke.  Also, pubs &amp; clubs have now banned smoking and people who wish to light up now need to do it outside and this also seems to have helpded.</p>
<p>A.J. &#8211; Good luck and I hope you can soon kick the habit completely!</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Treece</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-45950</link>
		<dc:creator>Treece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just speaking for myself, no, I didn&#039;t realize it smelled that bad. Not until I quit. I was exposed to cigarette smoke from the time I was conceived. Almost everyone in my family smoked, and most still do. Since I switched to the e-cig, I&#039;m quite frankly horrified that I went around smelling like that for so long.

My husband hasn&#039;t completely given up cigarettes, though e-cigs have helped him to cut down from over a pack a day to 4-10 cigarettes a day. And I&#039;m set on never being one of those ex-smokers who judge current smokers so harshly, so I&#039;d never say anything to anyone about the smell.

But yes, it&#039;s overwhelming when you don&#039;t smoke, and I can&#039;t deny that. Yet another reason I&#039;m so glad to have found the e-cig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just speaking for myself, no, I didn&#8217;t realize it smelled that bad. Not until I quit. I was exposed to cigarette smoke from the time I was conceived. Almost everyone in my family smoked, and most still do. Since I switched to the e-cig, I&#8217;m quite frankly horrified that I went around smelling like that for so long.</p>
<p>My husband hasn&#8217;t completely given up cigarettes, though e-cigs have helped him to cut down from over a pack a day to 4-10 cigarettes a day. And I&#8217;m set on never being one of those ex-smokers who judge current smokers so harshly, so I&#8217;d never say anything to anyone about the smell.</p>
<p>But yes, it&#8217;s overwhelming when you don&#8217;t smoke, and I can&#8217;t deny that. Yet another reason I&#8217;m so glad to have found the e-cig.</p>
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		<title>By: BecFG</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-45937</link>
		<dc:creator>BecFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my mum started smoking at 12, when her doctor told her that it would be good to calm her nerves. She still smokes now, despite trying to quit many times over and despite having been a nurse and worked in a nursing home and she&#039;s seen what happens to people. I think she&#039;s resigned to the fact she can&#039;t quit, though she has cut back alot since she had breast cancer.

She has always been so busy worrying about the rest of us, that I don&#039;t think she sees how worried we get about her, I know that someday she is probably going to die a slow horrible death if she doesn&#039;t have a stroke before then.

Despite all my siblings seeing how she has fought with the addiction for years, 4 out of 5 of us smoke (I&#039;m the exception). Now that I live out of home and away from my friends that all smoke, I find even walking into the room where a smoking office-mate has walked almost makes me gag.

Even if you put aside the health risks, you smokers do realise it smells disgusting right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my mum started smoking at 12, when her doctor told her that it would be good to calm her nerves. She still smokes now, despite trying to quit many times over and despite having been a nurse and worked in a nursing home and she&#8217;s seen what happens to people. I think she&#8217;s resigned to the fact she can&#8217;t quit, though she has cut back alot since she had breast cancer.</p>
<p>She has always been so busy worrying about the rest of us, that I don&#8217;t think she sees how worried we get about her, I know that someday she is probably going to die a slow horrible death if she doesn&#8217;t have a stroke before then.</p>
<p>Despite all my siblings seeing how she has fought with the addiction for years, 4 out of 5 of us smoke (I&#8217;m the exception). Now that I live out of home and away from my friends that all smoke, I find even walking into the room where a smoking office-mate has walked almost makes me gag.</p>
<p>Even if you put aside the health risks, you smokers do realise it smells disgusting right?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-45927</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard so many things about these electronic cigarettes and I&#039;ve got to try them.  One person I spoke with said they aren&#039;t as satisfying as a cigarette. I think they wanted the harshness which is probably from the actual smoke and bad stuff that comes with smoking a burning cigarette versus vaporized Nicotine.  I&#039;m still trying to quit smoking but maybe at least these things won&#039;t make me feel as guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard so many things about these electronic cigarettes and I&#8217;ve got to try them.  One person I spoke with said they aren&#8217;t as satisfying as a cigarette. I think they wanted the harshness which is probably from the actual smoke and bad stuff that comes with smoking a burning cigarette versus vaporized Nicotine.  I&#8217;m still trying to quit smoking but maybe at least these things won&#8217;t make me feel as guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: CJS</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/10/06/white-cloud-cirrus-e-cigarette-review/comment-page-1/#comment-45912</link>
		<dc:creator>CJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let adults make their own choices. If these e-cigs don&#039;t pollute then what is the problem? Shall we ban all alcohol becasue of its addictive qualities? Shall we ban coffee? Tea? Chocolate? Exercise? All these can be addictive. As long as my addiction does not affect a 3rd party what is the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let adults make their own choices. If these e-cigs don&#8217;t pollute then what is the problem? Shall we ban all alcohol becasue of its addictive qualities? Shall we ban coffee? Tea? Chocolate? Exercise? All these can be addictive. As long as my addiction does not affect a 3rd party what is the issue?</p>
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