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		<title>By: WarrenHCL</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-96367</link>
		<dc:creator>WarrenHCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my 3rd unit. I can&#039;t get one with a receiver that will charge up enough to power on.  This time it is going back for good.  Guess I&#039;ll apply the refund to a scanner.  ~W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my 3rd unit. I can&#8217;t get one with a receiver that will charge up enough to power on.  This time it is going back for good.  Guess I&#8217;ll apply the refund to a scanner.  ~W</p>
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		<title>By: DavidSuzuki</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-53474</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidSuzuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Z-PEN.  I was quite happy with its use, but I left it charging too long, and it is now permanently dead.  I know this is not a one-off problem because this happened to a brand-new one that I then exchanged.  The battery circuit is garbage, so not I am left with a $100 piece of plastic (it is past its exchange date now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Z-PEN.  I was quite happy with its use, but I left it charging too long, and it is now permanently dead.  I know this is not a one-off problem because this happened to a brand-new one that I then exchanged.  The battery circuit is garbage, so not I am left with a $100 piece of plastic (it is past its exchange date now).</p>
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		<title>By: mountain san</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-42657</link>
		<dc:creator>mountain san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s definitely a technological breakthrough pen, however refinement needs to be done, especially as described by you, it doesn&#039;t work correctly most of  the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s definitely a technological breakthrough pen, however refinement needs to be done, especially as described by you, it doesn&#8217;t work correctly most of  the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben S</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40764</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this review, I actually installed the My Script Notes app that came with the IOGear device I have -- I was pleasantly surprised by how well it works if I slow down a bit and try to write with the idea of OCR&#039;ing my notes in the back of my head.  It&#039;s not perfect, but it would serve to provide a keyword-search capability that I could use to find the handwritten notes that I could then read.

The difference between hand scanning all my notes and using the pen is a simple one: convenience.  After a meeting (or at the end of the day), all I need to do is plug in the device and the notes are transferred into the note management app on my computer; no futzing about with scanner software, etc.  I just make a note of what the meeting was about and I have a much easier time finding my notes than I would thumbing through a notebook.

I&#039;ve written more about my experiences with the IOGear Digital Scribe on my blog: http://simplisticton.livejournal.com/ -- check it out!

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this review, I actually installed the My Script Notes app that came with the IOGear device I have &#8212; I was pleasantly surprised by how well it works if I slow down a bit and try to write with the idea of OCR&#8217;ing my notes in the back of my head.  It&#8217;s not perfect, but it would serve to provide a keyword-search capability that I could use to find the handwritten notes that I could then read.</p>
<p>The difference between hand scanning all my notes and using the pen is a simple one: convenience.  After a meeting (or at the end of the day), all I need to do is plug in the device and the notes are transferred into the note management app on my computer; no futzing about with scanner software, etc.  I just make a note of what the meeting was about and I have a much easier time finding my notes than I would thumbing through a notebook.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written more about my experiences with the IOGear Digital Scribe on my blog: <a href="http://simplisticton.livejournal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://simplisticton.livejournal.com/</a> &#8212; check it out!</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40759</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still believe that the only real digital pen &amp; paper solution comes from using the special paper (developed by Anoto - which is what Livescribe use).

The Dane Elec style pen and others of their type with USB receivers suffer from the problem of paper movement. If you bump or drop your pad or the cat starts chewing it on your desk, then your alignments are out. But with the Anoto dot paper you can come and go as you please and never be concerned about alignment because the pen is always aware of exactly where it is on the page when it starts writing.

Much better solution for business use as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still believe that the only real digital pen &amp; paper solution comes from using the special paper (developed by Anoto &#8211; which is what Livescribe use).</p>
<p>The Dane Elec style pen and others of their type with USB receivers suffer from the problem of paper movement. If you bump or drop your pad or the cat starts chewing it on your desk, then your alignments are out. But with the Anoto dot paper you can come and go as you please and never be concerned about alignment because the pen is always aware of exactly where it is on the page when it starts writing.</p>
<p>Much better solution for business use as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Adkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago, I had a similar device for the Handspring Visor- a small clip that basically watched your pen movements and digitized them for viewing, and it had similar problems with the &#039;capture zone&#039;- it could not be too high, too far to the side, etc.

I agree that most buyers will expect that this pen will provide them with good text from scrawled notes fairly painlessly. As a guy who has spent a lot of time cleaning up scanned OCR text, and using the old Palm Grafitti, I feel your pain.

So... would a more standardized, Palm Grafitti-like handwriting help? I noticed that in the heyday of the Palm, my handwriting got very Grafitti-like and almost readable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, I had a similar device for the Handspring Visor- a small clip that basically watched your pen movements and digitized them for viewing, and it had similar problems with the &#8216;capture zone&#8217;- it could not be too high, too far to the side, etc.</p>
<p>I agree that most buyers will expect that this pen will provide them with good text from scrawled notes fairly painlessly. As a guy who has spent a lot of time cleaning up scanned OCR text, and using the old Palm Grafitti, I feel your pain.</p>
<p>So&#8230; would a more standardized, Palm Grafitti-like handwriting help? I noticed that in the heyday of the Palm, my handwriting got very Grafitti-like and almost readable.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bryan I reviewed the LiveScribe :)
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2008/08/01/livescribe_pulse_smartpen_review/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bryan I reviewed the LiveScribe <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://the-gadgeteer.com/2008/08/01/livescribe_pulse_smartpen_review/" rel="nofollow">http://the-gadgeteer.com/2008/08/01/livescribe_pulse_smartpen_review/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40648</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bryan I may try that pen. On to the next gadget!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bryan I may try that pen. On to the next gadget!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40647</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen many bad reviews of the Dane-elec pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen many bad reviews of the Dane-elec pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LiveScribe has a pen that works great, but uses special paper.  The great thing is that they don&#039;t make you buy the paper from them... you can print out the special dot paper yourself using their utility.

http://www.livescribe.com/smartpen/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LiveScribe has a pen that works great, but uses special paper.  The great thing is that they don&#8217;t make you buy the paper from them&#8230; you can print out the special dot paper yourself using their utility.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.livescribe.com/smartpen/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livescribe.com/smartpen/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Ben, I understand what you&#039;re saying but if I just wanted my own handwritten notes in my computer I could just scan them in. I bought this pen because I wanted my notes transcribed without having to go through the added expense of buying special paper, which is probably why other people would have eyeballed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Ben, I understand what you&#8217;re saying but if I just wanted my own handwritten notes in my computer I could just scan them in. I bought this pen because I wanted my notes transcribed without having to go through the added expense of buying special paper, which is probably why other people would have eyeballed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben S</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/08/11/dane-elec-z-pen-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40629</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting -- I have the IO Gear version of this device (I&#039;m betting it&#039;s the same underlying hardware -- it looks very similar and &quot;My Script Notes&quot; is the same application).  I didn&#039;t have the same issue with the device not recognizing notes on the top of the page, but it is very important that the receiver be mounted straight at the top of the page -- if it gets knocked about or moved dramatically, your notes won&#039;t line up correctly.

I haven&#039;t tried the handwriting OCR as I have no illusions as to its (in-)ability to read my henscratch, but having a digital copy of my paper notes has proven useful.  I upload the notes after every meeting and they are automatically date and time stamped.  I add a small note about the subject of the meeting.  It makes finding old notes a lot more efficient than flipping through a notepad.  The resolution of the handwriting is excellent (it stores the content as a vector image so &quot;resolution&quot; is not an issue), so I can always re-read what I&#039;ve written.

I think if you go in expecting the handwriting OCR to work decently, you&#039;re bound to be disappointed as even printed OCR is fairly hit-and-miss.  But if you just want a quick way to digitize handwritten notes, it works pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8212; I have the IO Gear version of this device (I&#8217;m betting it&#8217;s the same underlying hardware &#8212; it looks very similar and &#8220;My Script Notes&#8221; is the same application).  I didn&#8217;t have the same issue with the device not recognizing notes on the top of the page, but it is very important that the receiver be mounted straight at the top of the page &#8212; if it gets knocked about or moved dramatically, your notes won&#8217;t line up correctly.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried the handwriting OCR as I have no illusions as to its (in-)ability to read my henscratch, but having a digital copy of my paper notes has proven useful.  I upload the notes after every meeting and they are automatically date and time stamped.  I add a small note about the subject of the meeting.  It makes finding old notes a lot more efficient than flipping through a notepad.  The resolution of the handwriting is excellent (it stores the content as a vector image so &#8220;resolution&#8221; is not an issue), so I can always re-read what I&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>I think if you go in expecting the handwriting OCR to work decently, you&#8217;re bound to be disappointed as even printed OCR is fairly hit-and-miss.  But if you just want a quick way to digitize handwritten notes, it works pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Udkow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Udkow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the Nokia SU-1B digital pen years ago (it&#039;s actually still in a box on my desk).  It was very cool, but the special paper was a real bummer.  The other thing was that I found that I really didn&#039;t need to download my notes as much as I thought I would.  However, when I pulled it out and started using it EVERYONE would ask about it.  So, it definitely upped the nerd-cred factor. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the Nokia SU-1B digital pen years ago (it&#8217;s actually still in a box on my desk).  It was very cool, but the special paper was a real bummer.  The other thing was that I found that I really didn&#8217;t need to download my notes as much as I thought I would.  However, when I pulled it out and started using it EVERYONE would ask about it.  So, it definitely upped the nerd-cred factor. <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pics of the Klingon notes please!  

:-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pics of the Klingon notes please!  </p>
<p> <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mystech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice review, Alisa.  I&#039;ve been looking for one of these pens that did NOT use special paper (glad to see that some digital pen manufacturers understand how annoying that requirement is).  Here&#039;s hoping they work the rest of the kinks out of the product and get the accuracy/transcribing up to a point where it&#039;s an acceptable alternative to scanning physical documents later or transcribing notes by hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice review, Alisa.  I&#8217;ve been looking for one of these pens that did NOT use special paper (glad to see that some digital pen manufacturers understand how annoying that requirement is).  Here&#8217;s hoping they work the rest of the kinks out of the product and get the accuracy/transcribing up to a point where it&#8217;s an acceptable alternative to scanning physical documents later or transcribing notes by hand.</p>
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