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	<title>Comments on: Juno LED Downlight (aka recessed canned light) Review</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

The Juno lights I installed/reviewed are still going strong. I haven&#039;t had a single issue with them. As my wife and I plan to remodel the rest of our house, we plan to use these LED cans where ever we can.

The 2700K should be even warmer than our 3000K. I like the 3000K, definitely glad we did not use the 3500K or the 4100K variants.

I know they are expensive compared to regular canned lights but the Juno lights should last many, many times longer and be quantum levels greener as well.

Hope this helps,
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>The Juno lights I installed/reviewed are still going strong. I haven&#8217;t had a single issue with them. As my wife and I plan to remodel the rest of our house, we plan to use these LED cans where ever we can.</p>
<p>The 2700K should be even warmer than our 3000K. I like the 3000K, definitely glad we did not use the 3500K or the 4100K variants.</p>
<p>I know they are expensive compared to regular canned lights but the Juno lights should last many, many times longer and be quantum levels greener as well.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They now make a 2700K lamp.  I&#039;m wondering how much of a difference this is from the 3000K? In your opinion.

How have your lamps held up?

We&#039;re gutting our family room so I&#039;m researching recessed lighting. 

Even in 2011 most lighting stores have no clue about LED cans.

Why haven&#039;t they caught on? Because regular cans are only $10?

Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They now make a 2700K lamp.  I&#8217;m wondering how much of a difference this is from the 3000K? In your opinion.</p>
<p>How have your lamps held up?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re gutting our family room so I&#8217;m researching recessed lighting. </p>
<p>Even in 2011 most lighting stores have no clue about LED cans.</p>
<p>Why haven&#8217;t they caught on? Because regular cans are only $10?</p>
<p>Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Riezenman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Riezenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read your article on the Juno lights and I am considering the IC20LED-3K. I think it is the 5&quot; version of the ones you purchased. I have one requirement, that they be able to dim to 5%. Most only dim to 20%. Do you know if these dim that far or how you can do it?

Thanks, 
Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read your article on the Juno lights and I am considering the IC20LED-3K. I think it is the 5&#8243; version of the ones you purchased. I have one requirement, that they be able to dim to 5%. Most only dim to 20%. Do you know if these dim that far or how you can do it?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just replaced 2, 8&#039; flourescent tube lights with 6, Commercial Electric T-64 LED light fixtures (each with 5 LEDs) installed in Halo cans, all of it purchased at Home Depot for less than $400.  The lighting provided is an inoffensive white light, unaccompanied by heat or noise, that provides similar spread with the noisy, blinking, yellowish flourescents.  The only problem with them is that we have not found a dimmer switch that will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just replaced 2, 8&#8242; flourescent tube lights with 6, Commercial Electric T-64 LED light fixtures (each with 5 LEDs) installed in Halo cans, all of it purchased at Home Depot for less than $400.  The lighting provided is an inoffensive white light, unaccompanied by heat or noise, that provides similar spread with the noisy, blinking, yellowish flourescents.  The only problem with them is that we have not found a dimmer switch that will work.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are in fact a number of LED recessed lighting fixtures now. See http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=ssl.display_products_com_html for a complete list of Energy Star-rated LED lights. Note the Energy Star sites shows  wide differences between different manufacturers; while Juno&#039;s 6&quot; fixture maxes out at 41 Lumens per Watt to produce a max of 603 lumens with 14 Watts, in comparison, Cree&#039;s 6&quot; fixture maxes out at 61 (almost 50% more efficient) Lumens per Watt to produce between 663-673 (2700K or 3500K) with only 12 Watts. I have seen both company&#039;s products and I prefer Cree&#039;s color rendition and light distribution. Mark mentioned he saw Juno&#039;s product at $200 each. Cree&#039;s superior product can be had around the $110 price point. Google Cree LE6. I hope this helps out everyone looking for a greener product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are in fact a number of LED recessed lighting fixtures now. See <a href="http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=ssl.display_products_com_html" rel="nofollow">http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=ssl.display_products_com_html</a> for a complete list of Energy Star-rated LED lights. Note the Energy Star sites shows  wide differences between different manufacturers; while Juno&#8217;s 6&#8243; fixture maxes out at 41 Lumens per Watt to produce a max of 603 lumens with 14 Watts, in comparison, Cree&#8217;s 6&#8243; fixture maxes out at 61 (almost 50% more efficient) Lumens per Watt to produce between 663-673 (2700K or 3500K) with only 12 Watts. I have seen both company&#8217;s products and I prefer Cree&#8217;s color rendition and light distribution. Mark mentioned he saw Juno&#8217;s product at $200 each. Cree&#8217;s superior product can be had around the $110 price point. Google Cree LE6. I hope this helps out everyone looking for a greener product.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shocking endorsement. My wife and I looked at these lights and were surprised at how little actual light they put out. The fine print in their
brochure shows 600 lumens. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong but doesn&#039;t a 
60 watt light bulb produce around 850 lumens. This is kind of like a 40 or 50 watt light bulb. We figured we would have to buy almost twice as many of these fixtures to replace what we currently have in our kitchen to get the same amount of light. And at $200 bucks each, we walked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shocking endorsement. My wife and I looked at these lights and were surprised at how little actual light they put out. The fine print in their<br />
brochure shows 600 lumens. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but doesn&#8217;t a<br />
60 watt light bulb produce around 850 lumens. This is kind of like a 40 or 50 watt light bulb. We figured we would have to buy almost twice as many of these fixtures to replace what we currently have in our kitchen to get the same amount of light. And at $200 bucks each, we walked.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John  - LEDs run cooler than incandescents. That is where the energy is saved, not heating your house. Many folks are confused about &quot;color temperature&quot; the 3000K number is not a heat value. It is how hot a chunk of carbon has to be to glow that color.

One other minor note - there are many recessed cans in LED, not just Juno. All the big names in lighting make one. There are also many upstarts and small companies doing a good job in LEDs. Retrofit lamps, something to screw in to existing fixures, are around but are not very practial yet. Personnally, I am waiting for the winner of the &quot;L&quot; prize by the Dept of Energy. http://www.lightingprize.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John  &#8211; LEDs run cooler than incandescents. That is where the energy is saved, not heating your house. Many folks are confused about &#8220;color temperature&#8221; the 3000K number is not a heat value. It is how hot a chunk of carbon has to be to glow that color.</p>
<p>One other minor note &#8211; there are many recessed cans in LED, not just Juno. All the big names in lighting make one. There are also many upstarts and small companies doing a good job in LEDs. Retrofit lamps, something to screw in to existing fixures, are around but are not very practial yet. Personnally, I am waiting for the winner of the &#8220;L&#8221; prize by the Dept of Energy. <a href="http://www.lightingprize.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightingprize.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John This is totally off topic... but is your avatar Robert Johnson? If so, I love his stuff. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John This is totally off topic&#8230; but is your avatar Robert Johnson? If so, I love his stuff. <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are these cooler or hotter than regular incandescent can bulbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these cooler or hotter than regular incandescent can bulbs?</p>
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		<title>By: FubarGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>FubarGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aphid: That&#039;s correct, although we&#039;ve been contemplating recessed lighting in the living room. I wonder if these are any more difficult to install in a pre-existing ceiling than other models. I don&#039;t really want to take the entire ceiling out like your kitchen re-model!

I do also wonder how the light &quot;spread&quot; is, we&#039;ve put halogens into other rooms &amp; I&#039;m not very happy with how directional they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aphid: That&#8217;s correct, although we&#8217;ve been contemplating recessed lighting in the living room. I wonder if these are any more difficult to install in a pre-existing ceiling than other models. I don&#8217;t really want to take the entire ceiling out like your kitchen re-model!</p>
<p>I do also wonder how the light &#8220;spread&#8221; is, we&#8217;ve put halogens into other rooms &amp; I&#8217;m not very happy with how directional they are.</p>
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		<title>By: aphid</title>
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		<dc:creator>aphid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I&#039;m wrong here, but these are complete lighting units, not something that you can screw into an exisiting standard fixture, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong here, but these are complete lighting units, not something that you can screw into an exisiting standard fixture, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Rainey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Rainey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love that your diverse enough to include the downlight.  I love everything LED.  And it is a gadget.
One question, while the LED&#039;s are rated at 50,000 hrs, I am curious about the longevity of the solder joints though.  Does the manufacturer give a lifecycle figure on the circuits controlling the LED&#039;s?
Still like them very much  though.
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that your diverse enough to include the downlight.  I love everything LED.  And it is a gadget.<br />
One question, while the LED&#8217;s are rated at 50,000 hrs, I am curious about the longevity of the solder joints though.  Does the manufacturer give a lifecycle figure on the circuits controlling the LED&#8217;s?<br />
Still like them very much  though.<br />
Alan</p>
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