Comments on: Juno LED Downlight (aka recessed canned light) Review http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/ Gadget reviews and news by Julie Strietelmeier and friends since 1997 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:27:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Curt http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-39361 Curt Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:58:48 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-39361 I just replaced 2, 8' flourescent tube lights with 6, Commercial Electric T-64 LED light fixtures (each with 5 LEDs) installed in Halo cans, all of it purchased at Home Depot for less than $400. The lighting provided is an inoffensive white light, unaccompanied by heat or noise, that provides similar spread with the noisy, blinking, yellowish flourescents. The only problem with them is that we have not found a dimmer switch that will work. I just replaced 2, 8′ flourescent tube lights with 6, Commercial Electric T-64 LED light fixtures (each with 5 LEDs) installed in Halo cans, all of it purchased at Home Depot for less than $400. The lighting provided is an inoffensive white light, unaccompanied by heat or noise, that provides similar spread with the noisy, blinking, yellowish flourescents. The only problem with them is that we have not found a dimmer switch that will work.

]]> By: Wayne Chan http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-39353 Wayne Chan Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:25:19 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-39353 There are in fact a number of LED recessed lighting fixtures now. See http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=ssl.display_products_com_html for a complete list of Energy Star-rated LED lights. Note the Energy Star sites shows wide differences between different manufacturers; while Juno's 6" fixture maxes out at 41 Lumens per Watt to produce a max of 603 lumens with 14 Watts, in comparison, Cree's 6" fixture maxes out at 61 (almost 50% more efficient) Lumens per Watt to produce between 663-673 (2700K or 3500K) with only 12 Watts. I have seen both company's products and I prefer Cree's color rendition and light distribution. Mark mentioned he saw Juno's product at $200 each. Cree's superior product can be had around the $110 price point. Google Cree LE6. I hope this helps out everyone looking for a greener product. There are in fact a number of LED recessed lighting fixtures now. See http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=ssl.display_products_com_html for a complete list of Energy Star-rated LED lights. Note the Energy Star sites shows wide differences between different manufacturers; while Juno’s 6″ fixture maxes out at 41 Lumens per Watt to produce a max of 603 lumens with 14 Watts, in comparison, Cree’s 6″ fixture maxes out at 61 (almost 50% more efficient) Lumens per Watt to produce between 663-673 (2700K or 3500K) with only 12 Watts. I have seen both company’s products and I prefer Cree’s color rendition and light distribution. Mark mentioned he saw Juno’s product at $200 each. Cree’s superior product can be had around the $110 price point. Google Cree LE6. I hope this helps out everyone looking for a greener product.

]]> By: Mark http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37683 Mark Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:24:21 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-37683 Shocking endorsement. My wife and I looked at these lights and were surprised at how little actual light they put out. The fine print in their brochure shows 600 lumens. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't a 60 watt light bulb produce around 850 lumens. This is kind of like a 40 or 50 watt light bulb. We figured we would have to buy almost twice as many of these fixtures to replace what we currently have in our kitchen to get the same amount of light. And at $200 bucks each, we walked. Shocking endorsement. My wife and I looked at these lights and were surprised at how little actual light they put out. The fine print in their
brochure shows 600 lumens. Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t a
60 watt light bulb produce around 850 lumens. This is kind of like a 40 or 50 watt light bulb. We figured we would have to buy almost twice as many of these fixtures to replace what we currently have in our kitchen to get the same amount of light. And at $200 bucks each, we walked.

]]> By: Rick http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36960 Rick Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:28:23 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36960 John - LEDs run cooler than incandescents. That is where the energy is saved, not heating your house. Many folks are confused about "color temperature" the 3000K number is not a heat value. It is how hot a chunk of carbon has to be to glow that color. One other minor note - there are many recessed cans in LED, not just Juno. All the big names in lighting make one. There are also many upstarts and small companies doing a good job in LEDs. Retrofit lamps, something to screw in to existing fixures, are around but are not very practial yet. Personnally, I am waiting for the winner of the "L" prize by the Dept of Energy. http://www.lightingprize.org/ John – LEDs run cooler than incandescents. That is where the energy is saved, not heating your house. Many folks are confused about “color temperature” the 3000K number is not a heat value. It is how hot a chunk of carbon has to be to glow that color.

One other minor note – there are many recessed cans in LED, not just Juno. All the big names in lighting make one. There are also many upstarts and small companies doing a good job in LEDs. Retrofit lamps, something to screw in to existing fixures, are around but are not very practial yet. Personnally, I am waiting for the winner of the “L” prize by the Dept of Energy. http://www.lightingprize.org/

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36856 Julie Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:08:24 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36856 @John This is totally off topic... but is your avatar Robert Johnson? If so, I love his stuff. :) @John This is totally off topic… but is your avatar Robert Johnson? If so, I love his stuff. :)

]]> By: John http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36855 John Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:56:53 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36855 Are these cooler or hotter than regular incandescent can bulbs? Are these cooler or hotter than regular incandescent can bulbs?

]]> By: FubarGuy http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36822 FubarGuy Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:27:07 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36822 aphid: That's correct, although we've been contemplating recessed lighting in the living room. I wonder if these are any more difficult to install in a pre-existing ceiling than other models. I don't really want to take the entire ceiling out like your kitchen re-model! I do also wonder how the light "spread" is, we've put halogens into other rooms & I'm not very happy with how directional they are. aphid: That’s correct, although we’ve been contemplating recessed lighting in the living room. I wonder if these are any more difficult to install in a pre-existing ceiling than other models. I don’t really want to take the entire ceiling out like your kitchen re-model!

I do also wonder how the light “spread” is, we’ve put halogens into other rooms & I’m not very happy with how directional they are.

]]> By: aphid http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36812 aphid Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:00:23 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36812 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but these are complete lighting units, not something that you can screw into an exisiting standard fixture, right? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but these are complete lighting units, not something that you can screw into an exisiting standard fixture, right?

]]> By: Alan Rainey http://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/06/02/juno-led-downlight-aka-recessed-canned-light-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36766 Alan Rainey Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:16:06 +0000 http://the-gadgeteer.com/?p=15681#comment-36766 Love that your diverse enough to include the downlight. I love everything LED. And it is a gadget. One question, while the LED's are rated at 50,000 hrs, I am curious about the longevity of the solder joints though. Does the manufacturer give a lifecycle figure on the circuits controlling the LED's? Still like them very much though. Alan Love that your diverse enough to include the downlight. I love everything LED. And it is a gadget.
One question, while the LED’s are rated at 50,000 hrs, I am curious about the longevity of the solder joints though. Does the manufacturer give a lifecycle figure on the circuits controlling the LED’s?
Still like them very much though.
Alan

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