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	<title>Comments on: Palm pre &#8211; Is this Palm&#8217;s Rocky Balboa moment?</title>
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		<title>By: Productive Pinoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Productive Pinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah! Im excited to get one. Been waiting for a great device from Palm for a looooong time.</description>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update to the comment I just made.  After writing it I got all wistful and went to read a few peoples comments on the N97 and almost immediately I found someone who claims that he has been told the N97 will be running the same TI OMAP 3 processor that I think is the one in the pre.  Obviously it is just conjecture at this stage as I have also heard other reports that it would be running the same one as the iphone but it gives me hope.  Maybe I will be getting a phone this year after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update to the comment I just made.  After writing it I got all wistful and went to read a few peoples comments on the N97 and almost immediately I found someone who claims that he has been told the N97 will be running the same TI OMAP 3 processor that I think is the one in the pre.  Obviously it is just conjecture at this stage as I have also heard other reports that it would be running the same one as the iphone but it gives me hope.  Maybe I will be getting a phone this year after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This phone did tempt me severely.  I was holding out for a phone with at least 32 GB on board storage so I could stop carrying an ipod but when I saw this I thought I would be happy with 8 as long as I could put in cards for extra storage.  The rest of the phone being so good that I would make an exception.  However there is no way to expand storage at all which is a deal breaker I am afraid.  

It has made me rethink my previous plan.  I was going to wait for the N97 but now I have seen web OS and been told how the pre uses the latest arm processor which runs at 3 times the speed of the N97 or iphone the N97 no longer seems so attractive.  I will keep waiting now, I think the appearance of the pre will cause the industry to really innovate.  The coming year should hopefully see some competition for the present leaders in the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This phone did tempt me severely.  I was holding out for a phone with at least 32 GB on board storage so I could stop carrying an ipod but when I saw this I thought I would be happy with 8 as long as I could put in cards for extra storage.  The rest of the phone being so good that I would make an exception.  However there is no way to expand storage at all which is a deal breaker I am afraid.  </p>
<p>It has made me rethink my previous plan.  I was going to wait for the N97 but now I have seen web OS and been told how the pre uses the latest arm processor which runs at 3 times the speed of the N97 or iphone the N97 no longer seems so attractive.  I will keep waiting now, I think the appearance of the pre will cause the industry to really innovate.  The coming year should hopefully see some competition for the present leaders in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name comes from the legendary Oregon runner Steve Prefontaine, often nicknamed &quot;Pre&quot;.  Colligan is a UO graduate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name comes from the legendary Oregon runner Steve Prefontaine, often nicknamed &#8220;Pre&#8221;.  Colligan is a UO graduate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Adkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting burned out on Palm&#039;s incremental improvements and lack of &#039;wow&#039; lately. The relative dearth of new programs and accessories to me reflects the decline of the Palm.

The Pre MIGHT be the salvation of poor Palm- a new Palm, an iPhone killer, a major increase in public awareness all in one? 

If you score any for reviews, I would love to do a &#039;second opinion&#039; on it- and I even have Sprint! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting burned out on Palm&#8217;s incremental improvements and lack of &#8216;wow&#8217; lately. The relative dearth of new programs and accessories to me reflects the decline of the Palm.</p>
<p>The Pre MIGHT be the salvation of poor Palm- a new Palm, an iPhone killer, a major increase in public awareness all in one? </p>
<p>If you score any for reviews, I would love to do a &#8216;second opinion&#8217; on it- and I even have Sprint! <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Picture That II &#187; TV and Web Converge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Picture That II &#187; TV and Web Converge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right now the feel good story at CES 2009 appears to be  Palm. This is the tale of how Palm, long a valiant pioneer in mobile + PDA, battling against the Mobile Software Monsters   has quite possibly rescued its Brand of Technology excellence with the well designed Pre mobile phone offering.  Let me suggest in the subtext, Yahoo may have done the same for its somewhat faltering Web presence.    This entry was written by admin, posted on January 12, 2009 at 2:48 am, filed under trends, video. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &#171; Flash on TV [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Right now the feel good story at CES 2009 appears to be  Palm. This is the tale of how Palm, long a valiant pioneer in mobile + PDA, battling against the Mobile Software Monsters   has quite possibly rescued its Brand of Technology excellence with the well designed Pre mobile phone offering.  Let me suggest in the subtext, Yahoo may have done the same for its somewhat faltering Web presence.    This entry was written by admin, posted on January 12, 2009 at 2:48 am, filed under trends, video. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &laquo; Flash on TV [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew: I think Palm was mostly taking press appointments only. I would have loved to have gone this year and seen it up close and personal. I&#039;ve already decided that if they release a GSM version in Europe the same time as the Sprint version here, I&#039;ll be importing one. As long as it has 850mhz, I&#039;ll be a happy camper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew: I think Palm was mostly taking press appointments only. I would have loved to have gone this year and seen it up close and personal. I&#8217;ve already decided that if they release a GSM version in Europe the same time as the Sprint version here, I&#8217;ll be importing one. As long as it has 850mhz, I&#8217;ll be a happy camper.</p>
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		<title>By: Keep an Open Eye Eye, Sir &#187; CES 2009: Yahoo TV Widgets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keep an Open Eye Eye, Sir &#187; CES 2009: Yahoo TV Widgets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right now the feel good story at CES 2009 appears to be  Palm. This is the tale of how Palm, long a valiant pioneer in mobile + PDA, battling against the Mobile Software Monsters   has quite possibly rescued its Brand of Technology excellence with the well designed Pre mobile phone offering.  Let me suggest in the subtext, Yahoo may have done the same for its faltering Web presence. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, on my Nokia 770, every palm app I throw at it, appears to run at the exact same speed as if I ran it on my treo 700p.  I ran a benchmark, the benchmark says the emulator is about half the speed as my 700p, but I haven&#039;t noticed a single real life speed difference. 

I just got back from CES, I desperately wanted to play with the Pre, but palm was nowhere to be found. No booth, only an announcement.  Very sad day for me.  On the bright side the entire Windows 7 display crashed while the sale guy was telling me how much more stable it was then vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, on my Nokia 770, every palm app I throw at it, appears to run at the exact same speed as if I ran it on my treo 700p.  I ran a benchmark, the benchmark says the emulator is about half the speed as my 700p, but I haven&#8217;t noticed a single real life speed difference. </p>
<p>I just got back from CES, I desperately wanted to play with the Pre, but palm was nowhere to be found. No booth, only an announcement.  Very sad day for me.  On the bright side the entire Windows 7 display crashed while the sale guy was telling me how much more stable it was then vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevinh803</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevinh803</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an iphone, and would really like to get back to Palm.  I miss it&#039;s ease of use, and I developed a loyalty to the company.  I look forward to supporting them back to health.  Anyone want to buy an iphone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an iphone, and would really like to get back to Palm.  I miss it&#8217;s ease of use, and I developed a loyalty to the company.  I look forward to supporting them back to health.  Anyone want to buy an iphone?</p>
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		<title>By: GregW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three questions:

1. Does it have on board apps compatible with existing Calendar &amp; Memos data?

2. Does it have a removable flash card? (My Treo 680 has a 16GB card (almost full) which will be replaced with 32GB as soon as prices come down to something more reasonable.)

3. Removable battery?

Greg.</description>
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<p>1. Does it have on board apps compatible with existing Calendar &amp; Memos data?</p>
<p>2. Does it have a removable flash card? (My Treo 680 has a 16GB card (almost full) which will be replaced with 32GB as soon as prices come down to something more reasonable.)</p>
<p>3. Removable battery?</p>
<p>Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyed in the wool K7135 user</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dyed in the wool K7135 user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What...still no graffiti window, and where&#039;s the SD card ?  

I see that it has a camera - and GPS and that&#039;s nice.  It also has some other nice features like web access and email.  My 8 year old Kyocera 7135 has both, even though I have to carry three batteries if I&#039;m going to use them.

Overall a fair start. but still disappointing.  I want my graffiti window back !!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8230;still no graffiti window, and where&#8217;s the SD card ?  </p>
<p>I see that it has a camera &#8211; and GPS and that&#8217;s nice.  It also has some other nice features like web access and email.  My 8 year old Kyocera 7135 has both, even though I have to carry three batteries if I&#8217;m going to use them.</p>
<p>Overall a fair start. but still disappointing.  I want my graffiti window back !!</p>
<p>drf</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@miles: I am not sure the pre makes the iPhone look outdated, but it sure makes me want one more than an iPhone. The OS (from the screenshots and videos that I&#039;ve seen so far), look very OS X like, which I love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@miles: I am not sure the pre makes the iPhone look outdated, but it sure makes me want one more than an iPhone. The OS (from the screenshots and videos that I&#8217;ve seen so far), look very OS X like, which I love.</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first phone that makes the iPhone look old and outdated!</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Tillotson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tillotson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m sure there will be some way of writing lower level libraries and such in (probably) C.  I actually quite like the idea of a platform with a dynamic, fairly high level language as the primary development layer, although if I was doing it I&#039;d pick something other than JavaScript for that role.  (What can I say, I like Python and Ruby.)  Still, if they allow it to be extended, and add enough system facilities to it, I&#039;ll live with it.

(Well, in theory I&#039;ll live with it, anyway... I doubt I&#039;ll have one of these any time soon, since I use AT&amp;T, and also recently ditched my Centro for unusably poor RF performance at my home, so even when they release a GSM version I&#039;ll have to find out how well it works before jumping on it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m sure there will be some way of writing lower level libraries and such in (probably) C.  I actually quite like the idea of a platform with a dynamic, fairly high level language as the primary development layer, although if I was doing it I&#8217;d pick something other than JavaScript for that role.  (What can I say, I like Python and Ruby.)  Still, if they allow it to be extended, and add enough system facilities to it, I&#8217;ll live with it.</p>
<p>(Well, in theory I&#8217;ll live with it, anyway&#8230; I doubt I&#8217;ll have one of these any time soon, since I use AT&#038;T, and also recently ditched my Centro for unusably poor RF performance at my home, so even when they release a GSM version I&#8217;ll have to find out how well it works before jumping on it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope it comes to the U.K</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler Puckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Puckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple got skewered because they copped out at WWDC and said &quot;the web is the SDK!&quot; when everyone was fully expecting a full SDK. They got skewered because the web was the only SDK. There was no way you could write an iPhone app without writing for the web.

The webOS, at least as I understand it, is it supports web languages as an SDK, but also has it&#039;s own full programming environment using whatever language they choose, probably some variant of C. God I hope it&#039;s not Java.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple got skewered because they copped out at WWDC and said &#8220;the web is the SDK!&#8221; when everyone was fully expecting a full SDK. They got skewered because the web was the only SDK. There was no way you could write an iPhone app without writing for the web.</p>
<p>The webOS, at least as I understand it, is it supports web languages as an SDK, but also has it&#8217;s own full programming environment using whatever language they choose, probably some variant of C. God I hope it&#8217;s not Java.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of initial thoughts that ran through my mind:

&quot;That looks really nice.&quot;

&quot;Part of me hopes it works really well with the Mac ecosystem.&quot;

&quot;Wait ... they&#039;re calling it the Pre? Pre-&lt;i&gt;what?&lt;/i&gt; That makes me want to wait for whatever&#039;s coming &lt;i&gt;next&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

&quot;They&#039;re touting CSS/HTML/XML as their SDK? Apple tried that and got absolutely skewered by just about everyone. Palm had better get to work on native app functionality quickly.&quot;

&quot;Ed Colligan needs to get his head out of &lt;strike&gt;his&lt;/strike&gt; the clouds.&quot;

This final thought occurred to me as I read a reporter&#039;s account of Ed&#039;s reaction to her suggestion that the Pre be priced aggressively against the iPhone. His reply was something along the lines of &quot;why should we do that when we have the superior product?&quot; Bold words for something that hasn&#039;t even launched yet, compared to the most successful smartphone of the past couple of years. Too bold, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of initial thoughts that ran through my mind:</p>
<p>&#8220;That looks really nice.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Part of me hopes it works really well with the Mac ecosystem.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Wait &#8230; they&#8217;re calling it the Pre? Pre-<i>what?</i> That makes me want to wait for whatever&#8217;s coming <i>next</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re touting CSS/HTML/XML as their SDK? Apple tried that and got absolutely skewered by just about everyone. Palm had better get to work on native app functionality quickly.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ed Colligan needs to get his head out of <strike>his</strike> the clouds.&#8221;</p>
<p>This final thought occurred to me as I read a reporter&#8217;s account of Ed&#8217;s reaction to her suggestion that the Pre be priced aggressively against the iPhone. His reply was something along the lines of &#8220;why should we do that when we have the superior product?&#8221; Bold words for something that hasn&#8217;t even launched yet, compared to the most successful smartphone of the past couple of years. Too bold, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tillotson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tillotson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to comment on how easy this will be to develop for.  The idea of a HTML/JavaScript environment making it easier to develop for this platform only applies, in my opinion, up to a certain point.  It lowers the barrier to entry, but only in the same way that Dashboard and Yahoo Widgets lower the barrier to entry to desktop application programming.

I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll see a flood of small apps, just like the flood of widgets out there for the desktop.  But when it comes to more substantial development, i see no reason to believe that the new Palm OS won&#039;t require just as much effort and commitment as any other platform.  It&#039;s just another language, with another UI layer, and it will have just as many platform-specific APIs and quirks as the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and Android.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think building a platform on web technologies is a good idea, especially when you are designing something from scratch like Palm had to.  But I think the talk of how much easier it will be is at least 50% marketing -- serious mobile developers will decide to develop for the new Palm based on its market share and capabilities, not a factor as relatively minor as what language it uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to comment on how easy this will be to develop for.  The idea of a HTML/JavaScript environment making it easier to develop for this platform only applies, in my opinion, up to a certain point.  It lowers the barrier to entry, but only in the same way that Dashboard and Yahoo Widgets lower the barrier to entry to desktop application programming.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see a flood of small apps, just like the flood of widgets out there for the desktop.  But when it comes to more substantial development, i see no reason to believe that the new Palm OS won&#8217;t require just as much effort and commitment as any other platform.  It&#8217;s just another language, with another UI layer, and it will have just as many platform-specific APIs and quirks as the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and Android.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think building a platform on web technologies is a good idea, especially when you are designing something from scratch like Palm had to.  But I think the talk of how much easier it will be is at least 50% marketing &#8212; serious mobile developers will decide to develop for the new Palm based on its market share and capabilities, not a factor as relatively minor as what language it uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tillotson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Tillotson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Murray: My guess is that this is essentially the same as the Apple Dashboard or Yahoo Widgets.  Those are basically a combination of a HTML/CSS user interface (without the rest of the overhead it has in a full sized web browser) and a JavaScript interpreter that has extensions to access the whole OS.  So if Palm did their job right, you should be able to run stuff without a network connection.

On this same train of thought, I do wonder whether we&#039;ll see a preponderance of network-required apps, though -- with no phoneless PDAs running this, will developers find it easier to ignore offline usability?  I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Murray: My guess is that this is essentially the same as the Apple Dashboard or Yahoo Widgets.  Those are basically a combination of a HTML/CSS user interface (without the rest of the overhead it has in a full sized web browser) and a JavaScript interpreter that has extensions to access the whole OS.  So if Palm did their job right, you should be able to run stuff without a network connection.</p>
<p>On this same train of thought, I do wonder whether we&#8217;ll see a preponderance of network-required apps, though &#8212; with no phoneless PDAs running this, will developers find it easier to ignore offline usability?  I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to have a rotund infomericial salesman in Australia, his name was Big Kev. (Poor bastard suddenly dropped dead from a cardiac arrest) His catch was &quot; I&#039;m excited!!!!&quot;.

Being a long time Palm fan ( I originally had a Palm Pilot Pro!), having seen the demo videos I feel like I am channeling Big Kev - &quot; I&#039;m excited!!!).

One let down is no 3G - needs to be 3G for Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to have a rotund infomericial salesman in Australia, his name was Big Kev. (Poor bastard suddenly dropped dead from a cardiac arrest) His catch was &#8221; I&#8217;m excited!!!!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being a long time Palm fan ( I originally had a Palm Pilot Pro!), having seen the demo videos I feel like I am channeling Big Kev &#8211; &#8221; I&#8217;m excited!!!).</p>
<p>One let down is no 3G &#8211; needs to be 3G for Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very excited about this Palm new-ness (when was the last time I thought that?)!

Some clarification:
3G = 3rd Generation cellular services, which include EVDO on the Sprint and Verizon side and HSDPA/UMTS on the AT&amp;T and T-Mobile side.  Let&#039;s get our terms straight here people!  The Pre very definitely has 3G, and it&#039;s the faster EVDO Rev A variant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very excited about this Palm new-ness (when was the last time I thought that?)!</p>
<p>Some clarification:<br />
3G = 3rd Generation cellular services, which include EVDO on the Sprint and Verizon side and HSDPA/UMTS on the AT&amp;T and T-Mobile side.  Let&#8217;s get our terms straight here people!  The Pre very definitely has 3G, and it&#8217;s the faster EVDO Rev A variant.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What data and apps are on the Pre if you cut if off from the network ?  I am thinking of being in a plane for 14 hours.  This was an issue for the iPhone back when all third-party apps were Web based but it has been sorted now.  It is kind of pointless if you have a smart phone full of interesting apps that don&#039;t work when you put it into aeroplane mode. 

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What data and apps are on the Pre if you cut if off from the network ?  I am thinking of being in a plane for 14 hours.  This was an issue for the iPhone back when all third-party apps were Web based but it has been sorted now.  It is kind of pointless if you have a smart phone full of interesting apps that don&#8217;t work when you put it into aeroplane mode. </p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Pfeffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Pfeffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how people like to point the anti-competitive thing at Apple.  I fully admit I&#039;m not 100% familiar with Windows Mobile 6.1, but do any of those phones offer free push contacts/calendars/email or is your only option MS Exchange?

I for one think it&#039;s great that Apple licensed ActiveSync so that people could use iPhones with their work or hosted exchange services.  For me personally, I was already paying for .Mac, so it was a bonus to get the push sync capabilities of MobileMe with the new service, now that the bugs are mostly worked out of it.

This is coming from someone who &#039;grew up&#039; using Palm devices, I had a Palm III, a Palm V, a LifeDrive and a Treo 680.  If palm would have kept up with the times and not let the old OS die on the vine, I&#039;d probably still be a palm user.  If my iPhone dies an ugly death, and a GSM version of the pre comes out, I&#039;ll probably swap back to Palm.

--Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how people like to point the anti-competitive thing at Apple.  I fully admit I&#8217;m not 100% familiar with Windows Mobile 6.1, but do any of those phones offer free push contacts/calendars/email or is your only option MS Exchange?</p>
<p>I for one think it&#8217;s great that Apple licensed ActiveSync so that people could use iPhones with their work or hosted exchange services.  For me personally, I was already paying for .Mac, so it was a bonus to get the push sync capabilities of MobileMe with the new service, now that the bugs are mostly worked out of it.</p>
<p>This is coming from someone who &#8216;grew up&#8217; using Palm devices, I had a Palm III, a Palm V, a LifeDrive and a Treo 680.  If palm would have kept up with the times and not let the old OS die on the vine, I&#8217;d probably still be a palm user.  If my iPhone dies an ugly death, and a GSM version of the pre comes out, I&#8217;ll probably swap back to Palm.</p>
<p>&#8211;Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Pfeffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Pfeffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except MS Exchange of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except MS Exchange of course.</p>
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