Comments on: Guyot Designs Gription, SplashGuard and Firefly Water Bottle Accessories http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/08/03/guyot_designs_gription_splashguard_and_firefly/ Gadget reviews and news by Julie Strietelmeier and friends since 1997 Sat, 26 May 2012 18:07:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: josh http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/08/03/guyot_designs_gription_splashguard_and_firefly/comment-page-1/#comment-24313 josh Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:27:52 +0000 #comment-24313 <p>Ordered four of the stainless steel bottles and returned one that was shipped with a dent. There were clear typewritten instructions requesting a replacement. In response someone left me a voice message asking if I'd like them to "thump" out the dent and send me the same bottle. When I called back and got Guyot' s voice mail I reiterated the request for a replacement. Nothing. It's been months. I am dissatisfied. It's definitely overpriced if you get only 3 for the cost of 4. </p> Ordered four of the stainless steel bottles and returned one that was shipped with a dent. There were clear typewritten instructions requesting a replacement. In response someone left me a voice message asking if I’d like them to “thump” out the dent and send me the same bottle. When I called back and got Guyot’ s voice mail I reiterated the request for a replacement. Nothing. It’s been months. I am dissatisfied. It’s definitely overpriced if you get only 3 for the cost of 4.

]]> By: verticalturtle http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/08/03/guyot_designs_gription_splashguard_and_firefly/comment-page-1/#comment-24317 verticalturtle Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:32:03 +0000 #comment-24317 Thanks for the great review and the wonderful photos :). Here are a couple of other considerations for all the bottles Guyot markets and some other steel bottles. I’m a rock/alpine/ice climber so some of the points come from my experiences there. <strong>Bonus</strong> -Steel might get dinged, scratched or smudged, but it’s not likely to crack. Ergo, it will probably last longer than you will, so it’s sustainable. :love: -The steel Guyot uses is thicker than that used by others in this market (i.e. Klean Kanteen) so their bottles probably won’t get dinged as much or as quickly. -The design of the nylon cord is load bearing so you can clip your loaded bottle to other stuff without worrying about it breaking, and unlike bottles with a clip point in the lid, the bottle is still attached when you take the lid off. (A minor point for most, but climbers will find this to be a bonus. :) ) -You can, in a pinch, use this over an open flame to warm liquids -The steel used in these bottles is completely inert, thus avoiding any problems with toxic materials leaching into what you drink. :x (See the recent debate on problems with polycarbonates – i.e. nalgene bottles - doing this.) -Because this steel is inert, you can put any materials in this and completely clean it so that no odors or flavors remain (think alcohol ;) or highly acidic liquids). Polycarbonates, like lexan, mostly avoid this problem but may still leach chemical compounds. The soft plastics (e.g. HDPE) cannot overcome this problem. <strong>Bummer</strong>: -Steel is heavier than plastic (but you could bludgeon the Blair Witch with these bottles even when empty :wow: ) -Steel will “sweat” more than plastics when filled with cold liquids -Steel may not be the best material to put your lips on when it gets REALLLY cold :p -You probably don’t want to add really hot stuff in there either :eek: -They cost more... For most applications I've become a convert. The safety and sustainability of these bottles trumps any other concerns. I might use something else for ice climbing in Alberta in February, but for the rest of the time I'm sold on steel. Cheers Verticalturtle Thanks for the great review and the wonderful photos :) . Here are a couple of other considerations for all the bottles Guyot markets and some other steel bottles. I’m a rock/alpine/ice climber so some of the points come from my experiences there.

Bonus

-Steel might get dinged, scratched or smudged, but it’s not likely to crack. Ergo, it will probably last longer than you will, so it’s sustainable. :love:

-The steel Guyot uses is thicker than that used by others in this market (i.e. Klean Kanteen) so their bottles probably won’t get dinged as much or as quickly.

-The design of the nylon cord is load bearing so you can clip your loaded bottle to other stuff without worrying about it breaking, and unlike bottles with a clip point in the lid, the bottle is still attached when you take the lid off. (A minor point for most, but climbers will find this to be a bonus. :) )

-You can, in a pinch, use this over an open flame to warm liquids

-The steel used in these bottles is completely inert, thus avoiding any problems with toxic materials leaching into what you drink. :x (See the recent debate on problems with polycarbonates – i.e. nalgene bottles – doing this.)

-Because this steel is inert, you can put any materials in this and completely clean it so that no odors or flavors remain (think alcohol ;) or highly acidic liquids). Polycarbonates, like lexan, mostly avoid this problem but may still leach chemical compounds. The soft plastics (e.g. HDPE) cannot overcome this problem.

Bummer:

-Steel is heavier than plastic (but you could bludgeon the Blair Witch with these bottles even when empty :wow: )

-Steel will “sweat” more than plastics when filled with cold liquids

-Steel may not be the best material to put your lips on when it gets REALLLY cold :p

-You probably don’t want to add really hot stuff in there either :eek:

-They cost more…

For most applications I’ve become a convert. The safety and sustainability of these bottles trumps any other concerns. I might use something else for ice climbing in Alberta in February, but for the rest of the time I’m sold on steel.

Cheers
Verticalturtle

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/08/03/guyot_designs_gription_splashguard_and_firefly/comment-page-1/#comment-24316 Julie Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:51:22 +0000 #comment-24316 Nissan makes water bottles? Nissan makes water bottles?

]]> By: madkins007 http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/08/03/guyot_designs_gription_splashguard_and_firefly/comment-page-1/#comment-24315 madkins007 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:34:16 +0000 #comment-24315 1st Thought: HOW COOL! 2nd Thought: The Gription is a $13 item to turn my drinking bottle into a typical Convenience Store Tanker cup... 3rd Thought:... and for a lot less than the Firefly's $22, I can buy some small chemical light sticks to decorate my water bottles... 4th Thought:... and 'The Lid' at $9 really is not that major of an upgrade on my bottle's normal lid... 5th Thought:... and the stainless steel Standard Bottle at $21 really isn't even as nice as the Nissan or other stainless bottles that are insulated for the same basic price... 6th Thought:... BUT I want them ANYWAY! 1st Thought: HOW COOL!

2nd Thought: The Gription is a $13 item to turn my drinking bottle into a typical Convenience Store Tanker cup…

3rd Thought:… and for a lot less than the Firefly’s $22, I can buy some small chemical light sticks to decorate my water bottles…

4th Thought:… and ‘The Lid’ at $9 really is not that major of an upgrade on my bottle’s normal lid…

5th Thought:… and the stainless steel Standard Bottle at $21 really isn’t even as nice as the Nissan or other stainless bottles that are insulated for the same basic price…

6th Thought:… BUT I want them ANYWAY!

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