Comments on: The Ball Bluetooth Wireless Trackball

By: rick

rick — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:12:56 +0000

I’ve never understood why reviewers never understand the
ergonomics of the wireless trackball: keep it as far away from the
desk as possible except to charge it.
Sit back away from your screen with the wireless trackball in
your left hand with your left thumb near the left button and
your left index finger near the right button and your right hand
hovered over the ball . You can use your left hand to click
buttons and roll the scroll wheel or you can use the fingers on
your right hand to “reach over” and click the buttons when
they’re not being used to help turn the ball. You use the left
hand’s fingers to hold down the buttons while tracking, not the
right hand’s.
I have NEVER experienced any of the drawbacks that ANY
reviewer has had with the ergonomics of a wireless trackball.
In addition, when I’m drawing in AutoCad, I NEVER have to
play that “backpaddle and slap it back down” game that has to
be used with ANY mouse, wired or not. The only way to
use a mouse as comfortably as a wireless trackball in AutoCad
is to have a 4 foot by 8 foot mouse pad.

By: Monica

Monica — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:02:04 +0000

Hello, I use trackballs only. I pulled muscles in my shoulder/neck while “helping” people through technical difficulties (holding the phone with my shoulder and mousing around). The solution was to get a headset and a trackball. After a very short adjustment, I was just fine with the trackball. In fact, I now find the mouse clunky. I turn up the speed for my old marble mouse in the System Prefs and my trackball flies across my 24 inch Mac screen at work. I find it much easier to hold my thumb down and drag with my forefinger to drag/select in Photoshop/Illustrator. I now can easily use the pen tool and perform all kinds of complicated tasks. So, I just think it, like most things in life, takes some adjustment. Oh, and the point of getting a wireless trackball is….no wires!

By: Pat

Pat — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:49:36 +0000

In our case, a wireless (Bluetooth) trackball would be useful for use with a Bluetooth-enabled laptop. My wife sits in a chair with the laptop (on her lap), and I want a trackball to sit on the arm of the chair. Anytime she gets up, we don’t want her having to dodge wires (associated with a wired version), so wireless makes sense. I’ve already ordered her a Bluetooth left-handed “Frogpad,” the one-handed keyboard. The idea is for her to text with her left hand, and trackball with her right. This allows her to keep her hands on the arm rests, in a position which isn’t causing her more arm strain (her arm is going numb as a result of touchpad and keyboard usage).

As nobody is (currently) making a Bluetooth trackball, I’m thinking about getting a regular Logitech trackball, gutting the electronics, and grafting in the workings of a Bluetooth optical mouse. Rotating the optical sensor 180 degrees (along two different axis) would allow the trackball marble to effectively act as the “surface” which the mouse would ordinarily “see” (rotating the sensor 180 so it faces up instead of down) and move in the correct direction (rotating the sensor 180 so it faces back instead of front). The battery compartment of the trackball should be suitable for the power needs of the mouse electronics. While the buttons shouldn’t pose any real problem, hopefully it won’t be difficult to get the scroll wheel connected up as well (want to use the trackball’s native wheel). Would rather just plunk down cash at the computer store for an off-the-rack solution, but Logitech et all are remiss in creating a Bluetooth trackball (go figure).

By: jo

jo — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:19:16 +0000

A friend of mine is a quadriplegic, he has hand movement but not enough to use a normal mouse. the logitech trackball has saved the day. Now that he’s got a mini laptop though, we need to get a bluetooth trackball that will attach to the laptop somehow, sticking it over the trackpad would be perfect as the trackpad relies on heat and he doesn’t use his fingers, he has rubber splints for accuracy. I gather his situation is not hugely common so there isn’t much demand. I can’t find any mouse for this through extensive googling.

By: Shirley

Shirley — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:10:54 +0000

The reason I use a wireless trackball is that a shoulder injury forced me to keep my arm close to my side. So I attached the mouse to the arm of my chair. Now my shoulder is better, but I found I really like having my mouse at my fingertips no matter which way I turn.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:19:58 +0000

I am disabled and use a logitech marble trackball mouse with a mouth stick. If I didn’t have the trackball, I wouldn’t be able to use a computer.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:27:09 +0000

Why a Bluetooth Trackball ?

When your Home Theater HDTV is your Mac Mini’s monitor and is located in your living room with no desk to use a mouse on, a trackball in your lap works wonders when you sit in an overstuffed recliner reading e-mail or editing audio tracks, videos and photographs. And with no cabling to deal with as well. Even in troubled times life can be sweet !

By: Bert

Bert — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:47:29 +0000

Reason for wireless stationary:

Living room. When you are across the room using TV for a computer and you have only a couch or tray to set the mouse on.
No cord across the room, no space needed for pointing movements.

By: gslusher

gslusher — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:41:22 +0000

mischief wrote:

The only thing I begrudge about any input device is the IO slot it takes up; the thing that disappoints me about the Ball (sadly, it still seems to be the only Bluetooth trackball on the market – would appreciate an update from anyone if I’m wrong here) is that it STILL seems to take up a USB port for the charger. I use a Libretto u100 which only has 2 USB’s to start with. Guess I’m waiting for the world to catch up with me, as ever .

I’m on the move a lot, and frankly the more I can cut down on the spaghetti in my laptop bag the better – the biggest reason for being as unwired as possible. Plus I live on a boat which is all 12Vdc, so also begrudge anything that needs charging.

Which is a shame, cos I was all set to switch to the Ball. Guess I’m stuck with my trusty, battered old USB Kensington Orbit – if I can get it back off my buddy, who I showed it to, and who’s now a convert.

There are lots (dozens) of USB chargers for AC & DC–you don’t have to plug it into a computer. Some of these are suitable for charging an iPod, PDA, cell phone, even some digital cameras. My Bluetake BT400GX Bluetooth headset will also charge by USB. Griffin has the PowerJolt (DC only); PowerBlock (AC only); and PowerDuo (Separate AC & DC–essentially the PowerJolt & PowerBlock).

Boxwave has a slew of devices. The neatest is the VersaCharger Pro, which combines AC and DC chargers into one unit. The VersaCharger Pro can charge the USB iPods. (The original VersaCharger could not.) Boxwave also sells their Mini Sync retractable cables. I have such cables for: iPod; Palm TX; Samsung cell phone; mini-USB; USB extension, regular USB A-B; FireWire 6 pin to 6 pin; FireWire 6 pin to 4 pin for digital camcorder; Ethernet; telephone; iPod AV output; camcorder AV output; AV (3 RCA plugs on each end); and more.

You can find a lot more of these by a variety of manufacturers. Check any retail store that sells iPods, for example. You want a charger that has a regular USB outlet, not one with the iPod dock connector. You can go to Amazon.com and search on “USB charger”–you’ll get a lot of hits. Check Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, etc., as well.

You don’t need to have the charger plugged in all the time–just when you need to recharge the trackball’s batteries. You could leave it charging overnight, for example, using an AC or DC charger.

There are even battery packs by MacAlly and others that can be charged via a USB charger, then provide extra power for USB devices. I use that MacAlly battery pack with my iPod 5G and Belkin’s TuneTalk , the only voice recorder for the current iPod that I’ve found that has a power pass-through.

As for your concern about taking up an “IO port” (a USB port), if you used this Bluetooth trackball, you’d free up the USB port you now use for the Orbit. If you need to connect more devices, get an USB hub. There are nice 3- and 4-port portable USB 2.0 hubs that are quite small. Some even have external AC power supplies to provide power to USB devices. Without an external power supply, you can use many devices that are not “bus-powered,” like printers, and those that are low-power, like keyboards, gamepads, etc.

Do you begrudge the Libretto u100, as it most definitely requires charging? It’s a bit difficult to use electronic devices without some source of electrical power.

By: mischief

mischief — Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:40:17 +0000

I was a web producer about 10 years ago, and developed bad pains in my wrist, elbow and fingers, to the extent I was seriously wondering if I could continue working with computers. Switching to a trackball completely cleared any problems within a couple of days, and I’ve been a firm fan ever since. I’ve used it for graphics, music-mixing and video editing with no problems at all, finding that the palm of my hand is accurate on the ball, and that I get much less shake using my thumb on the button than I used to with my finger on the mouse.

The only thing I begrudge about any input device is the IO slot it takes up; the thing that disappoints me about the Ball (sadly, it still seems to be the only Bluetooth trackball on the market – would appreciate an update from anyone if I’m wrong here) is that it STILL seems to take up a USB port for the charger. I use a Libretto u100 which only has 2 USB’s to start with. Guess I’m waiting for the world to catch up with me, as ever .

I’m on the move a lot, and frankly the more I can cut down on the spaghetti in my laptop bag the better – the biggest reason for being as unwired as possible. Plus I live on a boat which is all 12Vdc, so also begrudge anything that needs charging.

Which is a shame, cos I was all set to switch to the Ball. Guess I’m stuck with my trusty, battered old USB Kensington Orbit – if I can get it back off my buddy, who I showed it to, and who’s now a convert.

By: gslusher

gslusher — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:12:51 +0000

I’ve used trackballs almost exclusively with my Macs for at least 8 years. They have advantages and disadvantages.

Pros: – Stays in one place
– On some models, fine control is easier than with a mouse
– Less tiring for the hands, as one doesn’t have to grip it like a mouse; you rest your hand on the ball.
– Much easier to move large distances on the screen–you don’t have to pick it up as you do with a mouse.
– Better for some kinds of games, where fast movement to specific spots on the screen is needed (e.g., Missile Command-type games) or rapid side-to-side movement is needed (e.g., breakout-type games).

Cons: – Thumb-driven balls can easily lead to serious RSI problems (I should know, having had that happen; my right thumb still bothers me)
– No visual/tactile feedback as to where you are
– If the trackball is placed at an angle, horizontal vs vertical can be confused.
– Often not the best for first-person shooter games.

The trackball reviewed looks, to me (I’ve used at least 8 trackballs), to be one of the worst designs I’ve seen. It seems designed to be difficult to use. Trackballs should have buttons that are accessible to the user’s thumb and little finger, i.e., toward the front of the trackball, rather than at the rear. If there are buttons at the rear, like the one reviewed, those should be set for less-used functions. I had a Microsoft Trackball Explorer (no longer available, I think) with lots of buttons and a scrollwheel that was well-designed for right-handed use, but the main buttons and the scrollwheel were operated by the thumb, which could (and did) lead to RSI pain.

When I was getting ready for rotator cuff surgery on my right shoulder, I had to switch to using my left hand. I tried the Kensington Orbit, but it didn’t have enough buttons, nor did it have a scroll wheel. I ended up getting a Kensington Expert Mouse.

The Expert Mouse has a huge ball–that makes it easier to get fine control. You rest two or three fingers on the ball, leaving your thumb and little finger free to use the two closer buttons. If you need to use the top buttons, the forefinger and ringfinger are in position. The four big buttons are easily programmed with Kensington’s excellent MouseWorks software. You can get a total of six actions–each of the four buttons plus “chording”–pressing the top two or the bottom two at the same time. One neat trick that solves your problem about dragging to highlight: you can set one of the actions to “drag,” which, when used, makes the computer think that the mouse button is being held down. I can press that button and drag a file icon, highlight text, etc., without holding down any button at all. To release the drag, I just press any of the buttons.

Instead of a scroll wheel, the Expert Mouse has a scroll ring around the ball. It can be turned with any fingers–I usually use my thumb. Using MouseWorks, I have essentially reversed all the default settings for use with my left hand. My right arm is fine, now, but I got into the habit of using my left hand on the trackball and haven’t moved it over to the right, yet. (My computer desk has more room to the right of the keyboard than the left, so putting the trackball on the left freed up some working space. The trackball barely fits between the keyboard and the left edge of the desk. A mouse would require probably 4-6 times as much room.

The Expert Mouse comes with a palm rest that you can see in the picture of the wireless model.

Try the Expert Mouse–and, commentors, please don’t criticize it unless you have tried it for at least several hours. I’ve read some hilarious “critiques” of the Expert Mouse (and other trackballs) that were obviously written by someone who merely looked at the device or tried it for 2 minutes and decided that, since it was different from his/her mouse, it must be worse.

By: CrowdedHouse

CrowdedHouse — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:42:26 +0000

I could only come up with two (more…after Julie’s “clean desk” idea) reasons to use a wireless trackball:
[LIST=1]
[*]Trackball (and laptop, I assume) users that move from meeting to meeting (ie conference room to conference room), and don’t want cords (or USB wireless dongles) hanging around to be bumped or caught on something, risking damage to the equipment (or to the person who trips over them).
[*]Dorks who use trackballs to play games, and do so on a laptop in bed (mice don’t work well on a comforter).
[/LIST]

What? Me? Using a laptop for games in bed? Uh…why would you say that?

By: spike

spike — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:24:42 +0000

I use a trackball mouse exclusively. I started using the trackball after three shoulder surgeries because all of the small movements with a regular mouse caused problems. It did take getting used to, but now I don’t have any problems. I do a lot of photo and graphic editing. I got around the difficulty of trying to use 2 fingers by turning the nouse nearly sideways in the palm of my had – I then use my thumb for the right-click and my index finger on the ball – my thumb can just kind of rest on the “clicker”.

By: Smitty

Smitty — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:23:17 +0000

I have a MacAlly BTMicro, and, other than the fact that I have to put a book on top of it to weigh it down and make the contacts in the charger connect, it’s great. Uses AAA batteries, comes with a rechargeable set and a cradle that plugs into a power outlet to charge.

My complaint with BT charging cradles that use USB is that, as a PowerBook user, when I’m gone, so are the USB ports. I can leave this little mouse on my desk or a hotel desk, and it’s ready to go for several days on a single charge. You ladies should grab one and review it. They were released at MacWorld ‘05 last January, and I think got kinda overlooked with the Shuffle and the Mac Mini. I got several for our sales team and all but one loved them (so I took his!)

Smitty

By: trophyofgrace

trophyofgrace — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:50:53 +0000

it is beyond me why a stationary input device (a la trackball or tablet) needs wireless.

By: johnsoax

johnsoax — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:13:18 +0000

Julie wrote:

johnsoax:

You may have a point about the different types of trackballs. Just looking at the Trackman Wheel makes me think it would be easier to use. But, do you do photo editing or other types of work that require fine movement of the cursor or click and move type operations?

I don’t do a whole lot of editing, but I have. It is a little annoying as the curser may move one pixel to the right or left as you are trying to go up and down.

By: Julie

Julie — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:41:20 +0000

johnsoax:

You may have a point about the different types of trackballs. Just looking at the Trackman Wheel makes me think it would be easier to use. But, do you do photo editing or other types of work that require fine movement of the cursor or click and move type operations?

As for the advantage of a trackball being wireless, I suppose it does allow your desktop to look less cluttered. That’s the only real benefit as far as I can see.

By: johnsoax

johnsoax — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:28:00 +0000

I'm a HUGE trackball user, but have never understood the large ball in the center of the device. I have always used a thumb trackball device. The large center ball looks like it really gets in the way. But the thumb trackballs work just like a regular mouse, but you use your thumb to move the curser around instead of your whole hand. I have the Logitech Trackman Wheel at home, and the Cordless version at work. Which brings me to the all important question. Can you tell me the point of a wireless trackball? For a device that just sits there, why can't it be wired? The only reason that I have one at work is that that is the one they bought me. I requested the same one I had at home and when it came in, it was wireless. Oh well. I just have to keep a pack of AAs in my desk. The battery lasts about two to three months with heavy usage, so not a big deal.