Mobius 2005 Trip Report


Julie’s comments are in Black, Judie’s are in Blue and italicized.

Mobius 2005 was held at the
Edgewater Inn
in Seattle, Washington this year, and other than a jaunt to race go-karts
at Champs on the second evening, we were predominantly on the 3rd floor of the hotel most of the time.
The first night kicked off with a meet and greet held downstairs in the Forest
Room. Here you can see Lisa Gade,
Julie and Joel Evans.

Like previous Mobius events, no one really knows until they arrive, just who else has been invited. Although a large
percentage of the guests this time were old timers, we were happy to see some new faces as well. 22 people were
invited this year. The guests represented the following sites:

The Gadgeteer
Mobile Tech Review
Howard’s Forums
Smartphone Thoughts
Treo Central
PDA France

Around the room were arranged all sorts of older and current Pocket PC, PPC
phones and Smartphones. I got to finally hold and fool with an HTC Universal,
also known as the
, and I got to finally handle an
HP Jornada 928
the Pocket PC phone I had
lusted over in 2002. Since they were not easily
available over here, I never even got to see one in real life. It brings a tear
to your eye, doesn’t it?

I was curious to see the GSM version of Judie’s phone; the HTC Wizard. Too bad that the CPU is half the speed of the 6700, or I’d be tempted to buy one. That said, I found the 6700 to be more sluggish than my Treo 650. But, I did like the bigger screen and larger keyboard. WiFi too!

Picture taken by Shane Chiang of

Besides just standing around talking gadgets and phones, there was an Xbox 360 set up in one corner of the room. At one point Judie and I saw that there was no one playing with it, so we sat down and tried to play Project Gotham Racing 3. Wow, the graphics on the 360 are great. Too bad we really sucked at the game ;o) I think I spent more time pinned against the guard rail, than racing!

The guy we are all listening to is John Starkweather with Microsoft. He just
got done thanking us for coming and told us to be sure to pick up our new phones
on the way out that night. John also pulled me to the side and told me that he
wouldn’t mind loaning me a JasJar so that I could write a review on it. So maybe
in January I can get started on that.

Hold up – did he say new phones? Hey now!

FYI: John was the person responsible for organizing and leading Mobius this year. Thanks John!

The freebie phone that was given to each attendee was an unlocked i-Mate SP5m, already loaded with software, a 128MB mini-SD card, all of the attendees’ info and our schedule for the upcoming days -very

I was a little worried that it would be a European version of this phone without 850MHz, but was happy to find that it’s actually a quad band and does work in my town.

The next day we met on the third floor and after eating breakfast we got set
up for the upcoming day. Julie and I sat at the head of the table, which only
seemed right. ;0)

I was directly behind the water pitcher, and Julie was to my left.

The day started out with Ford Davidson presenting a retrospective of mobile
phones – all the way from the old Motorola Dino to these prime examples of
telephonic computer wizardry…

…starting with the
IBM Simon, the
first Smart Phone – ever!

You mean smart brick!

The Motorola
– I wanted one of these so badly when it came out!


Same here! Weren’t those things super expensive? That’s probably why I never had one ;o)

…and a

Motorola StarTAC
with the
on organizer
  – I did have one of these! Ah, memory lane…


Would you all believe that my Dad STILL carries a StarTac? He loves that thing because the battery stays charged forever when you don’t make many calls.

…which brought us to the latest Windows Mobile 5 and a sneak peak at the
new Treo 700w.
It’s not quite ready, but will soon be debuting, and it appears to be a pretty
sweet addition to the popular Treo line.

I am VERY interested in this phone. I guess it’s because of all the phones I keep trying, I keep coming back to the Treo 650. I really like the form factor and keyboard size. I just wonder how snappy the 700w will be? I don’t like a sluggish PDA and definitely don’t want a sluggish phone!

Peter Bernard showed us a bunch of

Portable Media Center
devices that we weren’t allowed to photograph. so
that’s all I’m going to say about that.

For now I’m quite happy with my Video iPod. It fits in my pocket and although it has a very small screen, it is gorgeous and easy on my eyes. I have yet to develop much interest in the portable media center devices. I guess I’d rather just have an iPAQ 4700, which has a big screen and can do way more than just play movies and music. Of course the iPAQ doesn’t have a 20-60gb hard drive either…

Next, Andre Vrignaud presented us with an in-depth look at the
X-Box 360…and by the time it ended I
was drooling. I’ll wait until next year to get one though, maybe they’ll
actually be available for retail at that time.

It’s a very good thing that I don’t have access to low latency broadband. Because if I could have DSL or Cable, I’d be an Xbox Online junkie for sure. The way the 360 builds a robust sense of community is very appealing to me.

Jeremy Toeman with Sling Media came
in to tell us about their new Sling Box. What a cool premise – through this box
you can watch your TV from anywhere in the world, either on a laptop
computer or a Pocket PC phone like my PPC-6700. This demo was way cooler than
any other "watch TV from your mobile phone" demo I have ever seen…by far!

Jeremy promised to send all the attendees a Sling Box. I’m very excited to try it out. Not sure how well it will work with my Direcway satellite, but I’m willing to give it a shot!

The following presentation about Industry Trends that was obviously recycled
from a previous presentation to people who know all of the industry buzzwords
went right over my head, and my eyes glazed over as drool escaped the corner of
my mouth. Okay – it wasn’t quite that bad…(yes it was!)

I think my brain turned off during that talk, because I only remember the acronym IMS and that’s it. I don’t recall what it even stands for…

Ending the day was a discussion by Peter Wengert about

Windows Automotive
. I was interested to hear about a sub-$10,000 vehicle
being introduced in Japan which is computer enabled and completely media ready.
Cool stuff!

He also had a tricked out Hummer with a plasma TV in the back. 3 lucky Mobians got to ride to the evening event in it.

That was the last presentation for the day, so we headed to Champs for a
catered dinner and an evening of go-kart racing where I proceeded to "represent"
since Julie and Lisa didn’t race. ;0)

While Judie was embracing her inner Tony Stewart or Jeff Gordon, Lisa and I got to get up close and personal with the new Motorola Q. I wasn’t overly impressed. The screen seemed smallish and the keyboard cramped. Peter Rojas of Engadget had one of iRiver’s tiny U10 media player that he was showing off. Cool concept, which they came with more storage capacity though.

After the races, John brought out the box
of PDAs from the previous night, and said if any of us wanted some of these
relics we could have them…! Guess which PDA I literally
snatched from
the pile? That’s right – the Jornada 928! I even managed to snag one for Julie.

It needs a new power cord and a good cleaning – but isn’t it beautiful?


I got my hands on an old Samsung i600 too.

The next day kicked off with a very interesting speech by Michael Gartenberg
with Jupiter Research Group, regarding how cell-phones have become an almost
invisible item – meaning that similar to their wallet and keys, people don’t
count it when they consider how many items they are packing.

Michael was very entertaining to listen too. I particularly enjoyed the part where he wanted to get people’s ideas on what makes a device caress-able. Is it shine, curves, both? Something else?

Horace Luke presented an amazing demonstration of Photon, a future version of
Windows Mobile. This update is still several years away, but it would appear
that we will be in for a multi-media treat once it finally appears. And that’s
about all I am allowed to say about that.

I for one am very excited if what little bit we were privy to see, actually becomes a reality in a few years. I don’t want to wait that long for it though…

The next presentation was by Paul Pierce and Jason Gordon of Motorola. Paul
was actually on the team that designed the

Motorola Q
, which was interesting to finally see in the flesh…


I didn’t much like the keyboard, because the keys felt "plasticy" and very
stiff. Otherwise, the Q is a cool phone, if a bit wide.

This one isn’t for me. It just doesn’t feel like a phone in my hand. I think I’d rather have a Blackberry…

We got to handle the next RAZR…and me likey. Make it a WM5
Smartphone, and I would buy one today.


I must be the only person who doesn’t love the Razr. Whenever I see it, I just think “Beam me up Scotty!”

This is the new

, which because of its comfortable shape and black rubbery coat just
good. If I could get this black paint on my PPC-6700, I would be one
happy camper!

The interior is similar to the RAZR, in that it is a metal keypad with a
distinctive design.

We also got to handle the shiny finish PEBL, which was a total fingerprint

Here’s a better shot of its interior…

The PEBL is really slick – but it is no Smartphone.

Nope, it’s not a Smartphone, but the display was really nice and it just felt great in your hand. I also loved how you could press the top and it would spring open. I would actually carry this as my phone because it would fit perfectly in my front jeans pocket.

Also passed around was the
which although it had a beautiful screen came across as downright clunky after
handling all of those other sleek metallic phones.


The next order of business was to break into workgroups and design the
perfect mobile phone. My group consisted of

Ryan Block
, Matt Miller
(palmsolo) and myself, and was moderated by Derek Snyder. We were to discuss
what discussed hardware would be desirable in four different levels of mobile
phones, which we did with great gusto.

My group was moderated by Wes Salmon (from PDA Buzz fame) and had the task of coming up with the best software feature set. There were two other groups which talked about services for phones and … I’m drawing a blank on the last group…
In the end, the groups had to present their ideas in front of the whole group and then vote on them. Hopefully Microsoft will actually use some of this info…

The final session was a discussion on the future of Mobius, and once it
adjourned we were told to pick up our gift from under the Christmas tree – which
turned out to be a pair of Motorola Bluetooth enabled Oakley RAZR sunglasses.

Julie and I then proceeded to the Edgewater Inn’s restaurant,

Six Seven
, to have a fabulous meal of Alder Planked Salmon with Sweet Corn
Sauce, Seared Mushrooms and Truffle Oil – YUM! Thanks for treating,
Julie! :0)

You are very welcome. :o) I didn’t have the mushrooms though… I *hate* mushrooms. I subbed for garlic mashed potatoes ;o) After dinner, we went to Judie’s room and gabbed about the event for a couple hours. I then went back to my room to get some sleep since I had to get up at 5:30am. YUCK.

The next day brought a four hours delayed flight home for me, due to the
backup caused by the foul weather in Dallas. Ah well, I eventually made it home

Luckily, I was only late 1hr due to the rerouting of flights through Chicago O’Hare, caused by the accident at Chicago Midway the previous day.

As always, Mobius was a fun time. I enjoyed catching up with Judie and Lisa Gade, as well as meeting new people. It’s a shame there aren’t more small events like this that can bring like minded people together.

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  • Julie December 13, 2005, 3:23 am

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  • moldor December 13, 2005, 4:00 am

    I’d be interested to hear what you think of the Bluetooth Oakley’s. They have just arrived in Australia and my wife keeps trying to talk me pout of buying them…

    Maybe it’s just the geek in me…:-)


  • Judie December 13, 2005, 4:48 am

    Jon, The glasses are nice, but they were too big for me and they fit my husband strange. I would definitely recommend trying them on before the actual purchase. I like the idea of them very much, tho.

  • MitchellO December 13, 2005, 5:54 am

    I love the look of that SP5m. And its got WiFi too :love:

  • lgreenberg December 13, 2005, 11:30 am

    Wasn’t Howard Chui there?

    I don’t see Howard Forums listed in your list of represented sites.

    I’m WAY jealous of your gifts. I’m still waiting for my SP5 (the sister of the SP5m.)

    I actually purchased the Oakley BT glasses when they first came out but ended up returning them. Couldn’t get used to wearing sun glasses all the time. Removing the BT part when you’re inside is sort of a pain.

  • Julie December 13, 2005, 12:40 pm


    Yes, Howard was there. I’m just braindead and accidently left him out of the list. I even sat next to him on the plane on the way out there! I’ve just updated the list. Now I wonder who else I forgot.

  • reidme December 13, 2005, 1:48 pm

    Great coverage, almost like being there… NOT! 😉

    My input on the perfect mobile phone: a Palm OS PEBL (not that MS would care to hear that.)

    Seeing everyone with their laptops made me wonder, did anyone have the guts to whip out a Powerbook?

  • Julie December 13, 2005, 3:32 pm


    I had my 12″ Powerbook 🙂 I wasn’t the only one though. There were at least 2 others that I saw.

  • SQLDba December 13, 2005, 5:02 pm

    Okay Judie – the million dollar question – since you are a Sprint customer – and happy 6700 owner – when is eBay going to see that SP5m? I am thinking that model is going to be my next smartphone and would love a chance to bit on a gently used Mobius model 🙂

  • Redhed97 December 13, 2005, 10:29 pm

    Lucky ducks! Judie, I did not realive you had a PPC-6700, when are you planning to review it? Sounds like y’all have a lot more to cover! I’d like to see a review of the Oakley bluetooth wires too…:D

  • trophyofgrace December 14, 2005, 2:51 am

    Sorta off-topic, but are you planning on going to MacWorld SF 06, Julie?

  • Julie December 14, 2005, 3:19 am


    I had planned on it, but my plans fell through 🙁

  • Judie December 14, 2005, 2:50 pm

    SQLDba wrote:

    Okay Judie – the million dollar question – since you are a Sprint customer – and happy 6700 owner – when is eBay going to see that SP5m? I am thinking that model is going to be my next smartphone and would love a chance to bit on a gently used Mobius model 🙂

    Awww – I feel bad now. It’s already gone on to a happy new home. Interestingly enough, I popped an inactive T-Mobile SIM card in it and got full signal strength- but we “don’t have T-Mobile in San Angelo yet.” Yah, right. :p

    @RedHed97, I wrote an entry in my gear diary about the 6700, but I don’t think I will be doing a full-bore review. I need to write an update pretty soon…

  • MitchellO December 17, 2005, 12:34 pm

    Judie/Julie, what do you think of the SP5m? I am thinking of buying one when they become available in Australia, and then choosing between it and the Wizard. Its screen looks gorgeous, and its size (and no need for a case) makes it a winner. And the WiFi is the reason I would get it over other WM5 smartphones.

  • Judie December 17, 2005, 3:13 pm

    Mitchell, the SP5 is a truly cool phone.

    The only thing that bugged me was the lack of a touch screen. If I were going to use it just as a “smartphone” while carrying a separate PDA, and as a backup PDA for times when I didn’t want to carry two devices, then it might not be so bad. But not being able to touch the screen and quickly enter or find info by that method would be a deal-breaker for me, if I was trying to use it as a main-brain PDA.

    I am sure others would have no problem with it, tho. That’s why there are is something for everyone. :0)

  • Julie December 17, 2005, 4:17 pm


    I really liked the display and size of the phone. The deal breaker for me was that it doesn’t have a keyboard (the number pad really doesn’t count as far as I’m concerned) or touch screen. The other thing is that it just felt sluggish to me. Maybe I’m spoiled by the Treo 650 (yeah, I know I am…). So, I sent the SP5 off to Rob to write a review.

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