Update: SCOTTeVEST Version Three.0 Spring Jacket Review

11/04/04 See updates in red below

The folks behind the wildly popular SCOTTeVEST gear jackets have been at it again! This time they’ve created a lighter weight jacket that can be worn during the cooler Spring season and even straight through Summer. The Version Three.0 Spring jacket, which is very similar in styling to their Limited Edition Leather Jacket, is available in Olive and Stone colored brushed nylon fabric. I was recently sent the Olive version to review. Let’s take a closer look…

Early May weather here in Columbus, Indiana can be pretty chilly. We’ve still been getting early morning temps in the low to mid 40’s. I’m not complaining, as this has given me the chance to review this new jacket. Trust me – it’s definitely no fun trying to review a coat when it’s 80-90 degrees outside.

Thankfully, the Spring jacket isn’t heavy or bulky. It’s just a little bit heavier than a typical windbreaker style coat. The nylon material from which it is constructed, is Teflon coated. This coating enables the jacket to be water repellant, while remaining soft and breathable.

As I mentioned at the beginning of the review, this jacket is very similar in style and pocket layout as the Limited Edition Leather Jacket. It’s almost as if they made a replica of it, but substituted nylon for the leather. Of course they are not identical, there are a few noticeable differences which we’ll get to…

The exterior of the jacket has 6 pockets. Like all of the current SCOTTeVEST jackets, this one has two deep zippered slash pockets for your hands. An additional horizontal zippered pocket is located on the outside of both of these pockets. There are also 2 vertical breast pockets.

Although you can’t see them in the picture, there is an epaulet located at the top of each shoulder. You can use them to clip on a hands free microphone, cell phone, etc.

The sleeve cuffs are adjustable and use my favorite material… Velcro…. Yes, I’m being sarcastic when I say I like Velcro. I much prefer the use of snaps on cuffs.

The lower back area of the jacket has a large horizontal zipper which opens to reveal a large pocket. A heavy duty snap is also employed to help keep the pocket closed. This pocket works great for holding magazines or other flat items / papers.

The collar on the Spring jacket is not as tall as previous jackets. I measured it at 2.5 inches, which makes it more tolerable for me than the one on the Leather jacket. That said, I still prefer a nice fold down collar over one that stands up. I can live with this one because it has a large removable hood that is concealed inside. No, you’re not getting a picture of me with the hood on. I think I look like the Unibomber when I wear it. ;o)

In addition to the hood, the sleeves are also removable. This allows you to wear the jacket like a vest in warmer weather.

The front of the jacket zips all the way to the top of the collar with a heavy duty zipper. A magnetic placket and a snap at the bottom conceal the zipper for a nice finished look.

Those of you whose biggest complaint was SCOTTeVEST’s overuse of logo branding on their jackets will be disappointed to learn that this jacket is no different. I counted no less than 4 prominent logos stitched into the exterior of the Spring jacket in various locations. At least they don’t stand out as much on this lighter colored background as they do on the dark Leather jacket.

On to the interior…

I was very happy to see that the silky nylon lining that was used in the Limited Edition Leather Jacket has also been used in the Spring jacket. This material, while not see thru, feels great and doesn’t snag as easily as the mesh material that is used in their other jackets.

On the inside right panel there are 4 main pockets with 2 hidden pockets inside them.

The left panel can be configured with up to 8 separate pockets. By configured, I mean that one of the pockets can be used as 1 large pocket or it can be separated into 2 pockets by using Velcro.

Of course, I can’t forget to mention that this jacket features the famous Personal Area Network (PAN) which enables you to wire your gadgets throughout the garment. Ear bud holders are located near the top inside collar area.

There are a couple of other neat things that this jacket (as well as SCOTTeVEST’s other jackets) have, that sometimes do not get mentioned in reviews. They include:

  • An eye glass cleaning cloth attached inside a pocket with an alligator clip on an elastic band
  • A spiral phone cord with key clip that is attached inside the right slash pocket
  • An elastic water bottle holder located inside the left slash pocket
  • A card inside almost every pocket, that gives you ideas of what you can store in them

No matter how you look at it, there is no shortage of storage in a SCOTTeVEST. With 31 pockets this can be a problem as you might actually forget where you put something!

While this jacket is functional and comfortable, I do have one gripe about it. In my opinion it’s slightly too masculine for the female gadgeteer. I think that it is about time that Scott Jordan either consults with his wife to help him come up with a style that is more flattering to the female body, or he lets Judie and I help design one! What do you girls (and guys) think?

That said, whether you are a girl or a guy, the Spring SCOTTeVEST is a great way to hold a ton of gear without having to lug a shoulder bag or backpack!

Update:
SCOTTeVEST sent me their newest Three.0 Cotton jacket to take a look at. It is
very similar to the Spring jacket reviewed above, but this one is constructed of
Teflon coated cotton instead of Teflon coated nylon. The difference in materials
can be felt mainly in the overall weight of the coat and the fact that it is
more comfortable to wear on warmer days. The cotton material breathes better
than the nylon.


Available only in black at the time of this writing, I
wasn’t too keen on the color when I received it. I’m not much for wearing black
as I’m pretty fair skinned to begin with. Wearing black makes me look like an
albino ghost. Black also tends to show lint more than I like.

The sizes that are available include Small – XXX-Large
+Tall. Women beware that the sizes run big. In the picture above, I’m wearing
Small. As you can see, it’s too big on me.

The interior of the jacket has a silky silver lining
with little SeV logos embroidered in it. Some of the interior pockets are made
of a see-thru mesh material.

This jacket has 32 pockets instead of 31 like the
Spring jacket. Where’s the extra pocket? Good question! A nice addition to this new
jacket are the rubber earphone
cable holders at the top edge of collar.

Speaking of the collar, the height of this one is 2.75 inches tall
and houses a removable hood. The height of the collar may bother some people.

The cotton jacket is very comfortable to wear, but at
$20 more than the Spring version, I’m not really sure if I would choose it. I
like the fit and the looks (on me) of the Spring version better. Maybe it’s
because it’s available in green, while the Cotton version is only available in
Black. Either way, these are great jackets that will carry all your gear and
allow you to look good while doing it.
 

Price: $149.99 ($169.00 Three.0 Cotton)

Pros:

Pockets, pockets, pockets
New colors

Cons:

Too many logos
Use of Velcro

 

Product Information

Price:149.99
Manufacturer:SCOTTeVEST
Pros:
  • Pockets, pockets, pockets
  • New colors
Cons:
  • Too many logos
  • Use of Velcro
Posted in: Gear

47 comments… add one

  • Julie May 6, 2004, 11:12 pm

    Post your comments here on the SCOTTeVEST Version Three.0 Spring Jacket Review.

    http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/scottevest-v3-spring-review.html

    Just click the POST REPLY button on this page.

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  • fitzsimmons May 7, 2004, 1:35 am

    Darn, they still haven’t learned that many people don’t like geeky logos, especially amateurish ones…

    Guess there is no evest in my future…

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  • fnj May 7, 2004, 11:50 am

    I’ve got the gortex version of the coat and it is quite nice, particularly for folks who go through a lot of security checkpoints. I work for the government in Washington and travel extensively overseas and the coat speeds me through security checkpoints.

    I have to admit that the logos are a little much for me, but one in particular really bugs me. It’s a rather stiff little number down next to my right hand that sticks out just enough to constantly rub against my hand. It’s stiff and sharp and is just painful enough to be annoying. Thankfully, it looks easy enough to remove, so maybe on my next 12 hour flight!

    Again, the coat rocks. The company rocks (they were able to come up with a difficult size for me despite the website’s saying that they were sold out.

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  • laurajordan May 7, 2004, 3:22 pm

    Thank you for the review of our Spring jacket. We’ve enjoyed a lot of positive feedback from our customers on this jacket. If anyone has any questions about this–or any of our other products–we would be happy to answer any questions posted.

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  • Julie May 7, 2004, 3:55 pm

    Laura:

    Have you had any other requests for a more feminine jacket?

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  • laurajordan May 7, 2004, 4:14 pm

    We have had a couple of requests, although most women are happy with the jackets. One of our new designers has designed a lot of fashionable clothing, and we will see her influence in some of the future models.

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  • Judie May 7, 2004, 7:42 pm

    Laura,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to personally reply. Usually we get to talk to Scott – which is fine – but it’s nice to hear from his “better half.”

    We look forward to seeing and trying the new designs.

    Judie <someone else> ;)

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  • scottevest May 16, 2004, 1:18 am

    Julie,

    Thanks for the review. I was out of the country in Belize and left Laura to hold down the fort.

    We toned down the logo treatment significantly from prior versions, but a few well placed logos still appear. If you compare our logos to what you find on other clothing companies (e.g., Northface), I believe that you will find that our logos are much more discrete.

    I respect your opinion, however.

    Scott

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  • TechnoCat June 11, 2004, 2:14 pm

    My primary gripe with the eVest series is that of style and weight. Although I’m a very hardcore techie and that’s an integral part of my professional life, it is a professional life. I have to impress clients, do on-site visits, travel, write proposals… my businesswear is “business casual”, meaning dress shirts, slacks, actual shoes rather than sandals. Birkenstocks are not even allowed in the vicinity!

    Unfortunately, the eVest series tends more towards the casual end of lightweight jackets. I’d pay a lot more to get a properly-hung one in a nice dark microfibre, in the mold of those from Newport Harbor. Keep it lightweight too, so I don’t overheat while wearing it. Until then, I pretty much string cords under my dress shirt.

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  • Judie June 11, 2004, 2:39 pm

    TechnoCat – I am not sure if you have seen it or not, but Scott does offer a sports jacket version, too: http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/30_sport_jacket.shtml

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  • laurajordan June 11, 2004, 2:42 pm

    We have some products coming out this summer and fall, which may be what you want. In the summer, we will be offering a vest and in the fall, a jacket (with removable sleeves). Both will be in darker colors. As far as a more professional look, we also have our TEC Sport Jacket, which is a navy blue blazer that is great for a business casual environment.

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  • TechnoCat June 12, 2004, 8:07 pm

    As far as a more professional look, we also have our TEC Sport Jacket, which is a navy blue blazer that is great for a business casual environment.

    Unfortunately, there is an enormous gap between a well-hung microfibre windbreaker-style jacket and a blazer. Just as the extremely casual running-style windbreakers would be too casual, the blazer is too formal. It’s like the difference between old torn Wrangler jeans, Dockers and pinstriped slacks.

    I’ll look forward to the autumn line.

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  • scottevest June 12, 2004, 8:16 pm

    fyi: these will be here in fall

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  • Julie June 12, 2004, 11:18 pm

    Will you have them for women too? Please :)

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  • scottevest June 13, 2004, 12:08 am

    The pants will be only made initially for men. If they do well, as we hope, we can then expand into women’s versions. Let me know if you want to check out a pair in prototype form. They are very cool.

    Scott

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  • Mario July 7, 2004, 7:19 pm

    The review of the new Scotte-vest is very helpful, and I agree about the annoyance advertising on clothing, on the superiority of the smooth lining over mesh, and that snaps are prefereable to velcro on the sleeve cuffs.

    But the review implied that this “spring” model keeps one warm at 40 degrees in Indiana. Does that mean that it is not light and breathable enough for Florida or West Africa?

    I checked company site (wonderfully animated illustrations!), but it does not have a description of available fabric weights and colors for each model. And it is not clear when the new colors or fabrics are going to be available

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  • laurajordan July 7, 2004, 7:58 pm

    I’m sorry that you couldn’t find the information you wanted on our site. Version Three.0 Spring is 100% nylon and is designed to be worn in warmer climates.

    We also have a couple of new products which will be on the site any day. They are made of a stretchy, breathable cotton blend. Our Classic Vest will be available in black and slate gray. Version Three.0 cotton will be offered only in black. The Version Three.0 Cotton jacket can accomodate our fleece liner, so it will work in colder weather, as well.

    I hope this helps. If you have more questions, don’t hesitate to contact us.

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  • Mario July 7, 2004, 9:27 pm

    Thanks, Laurajordan, that is extremely helpful information.

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  • ebeyonder August 8, 2004, 2:18 pm

    Thanks for the informative review; it was most useful!

    I’ve been wanting this vest ever since I saw it a year ago. In a week’s time, I’ll be going to the US for a year and that would be an opportune time for me to purchase the vest. However, the Ver 3 sizes seem to go a bit large, and this is a particular problem for me as I am fairly small-built. My shirt size is 32-33 and I note that the smallest size for the Ver 3 is made for a 35 chest size.

    May I know if the vest is made deliberately larger than a corresponding chest size to accomodate clothing worn underneath the vest?

    Thank you.

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  • laurajordan August 9, 2004, 1:42 pm

    Thank you for your interest in our products. Although our jackets are designed to accomodate clothing worn under them, the sizing chart is an accurate guideline to determine fit. We accept returns and exchanges for 30 days after purchasing on unworn items that have the tags on them, so you can always return the small if it is too large for you. We do have some of our Version 2.0 http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/version20_olive.shtml jackets on sale. That line ran smaller and might be a better fit.

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  • ebeyonder August 9, 2004, 5:14 pm

    Thanks for your reply; I have decided to order both the S Ver 3.0 and the XS Ver 2.0 Olive. I will then return the less suitable one. How should I go about returning the less suitable piece — is there a designated postal service I should use and will this postage be reimbursed? Further, how will I receive the refund for the returned piece? Thanks.

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  • laurajordan August 9, 2004, 5:47 pm

    All of the return/exchange instructions will be included on your invoice and can also be found on the customer service section of our website. Basically, you are responsible for the postage to return it to us. You can use any method you select. When we receive the returned item, we will issue a credit for the merchandise on the credit card used for the order.

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  • alpax August 24, 2004, 7:26 pm

    Could you provide more info about the products coming out this fall please?
    Any replacement for MicroFibre version? I know about the Cotton one, but I guess the microfibre should be more lightweight (BTW adding new 3.0 styles to the weight chart in the Product FAQ would be very helpful).
    The Spring jacket looks fine, but personally I’d prefer a darker color, a softer and less windbreaker-like appearance…

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  • laurajordan August 24, 2004, 8:00 pm

    All of our new fall products are on the website and all are in stock. The Version Three.0 Microfiber was replaced with Verison Three.0 Cotton. It is very similar to the Micro jacket in weight, but a more breathable and comfortable fabric. It is available in black. We also have the Classic Vest in black and slate gray and Hidden Cargo Pants in stone. We’ve re-stocked the Stealth Finetex and Version Three.0 Finetex, so all sizes are in stock, except the XLT Finetex, which is still back-ordered. The Spring jackets really don’t look like windbreakers in person, especially the olive, which is a brushed nylon and has a matte appearance. Thanks for the suggestion to add the weights to the FAQs.

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  • alpax August 25, 2004, 12:11 am

    Laura, thank you for your quick answer!
    Probably the Cotton version is the way to go for me.
    If I only could touch and try it first just to be sure…
    Is there any review of this style?

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  • laurajordan August 26, 2004, 6:28 pm

    Although there hasn’t been a review of Version Three.0 Cotton yet (we expect one soon, as a sample is on its way to the gadgeteer as we speak), here are a couple of reviews of the Classic Vest, which is made of the same fabric:

    http://www.bostonpocketpc.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=168

    http://davesipaq.com/articles/00085/iPAQ_clothing_SCOTTeVEST_Classic/1

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  • alpax August 26, 2004, 8:23 pm

    Yes, I read them already and almost decided about cotton, but at the last minute discussed this with my wife and… ordered Spring in Stone :)
    The color does matter, and though Stone is probably too light I agreed to her that Black will be too dark (and we don’t like Olive very much). You should consider adding a gray color for Cotton style (like for Classic Vest).
    Another reason for Spring – looks like this lightweight version will be better for me as I’m going to wear it inside (in the office) most of the time.

    That’s what the “better halfs” are for – to help another half make the right decision… :D

    The only problem – I cannot wait until my order arrives… :)

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  • laurajordan August 26, 2004, 8:27 pm

    It will be there soon. I hope you enjoy it! Let us know.

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  • ebeyonder September 5, 2004, 4:24 pm

    I just got my eVEST two days ago and it’s great! I like it very much and have even installed a CamelBak hydration pack with it. Now I’m waiting for the cooler weather to come so I can wear it in the streets!

    However, one thing does bug me though: a tiny portion of the ID tag was not properly sewn in, leaving a tiny torn appearance. Pls don’t get me wrong — the vest is wonderfully made and I am sure the general consumer would not have minded it. However, having anticipated and waited for the eVEST for 2 yrs, I am anxious that my eVEST is in the best possible condition.

    As such, I will be returning the eVEST for a new one. I have 2 questions:

    1. It is a minor (and I mean really minor) original defect but will this entitle me to an exchange sans the shipping charges?

    2. I have every intention of buying a hidden cargo pants to go along with the eVEST. If I were to send the eVEST back, can the newly ordered pants be arranged to be in the same shipping package with the new eVEST? Also, since I am in effect re-ordering a pair of pants along with an eVEST, will I enjoy the special price for the pants that was offered to me when I ordered the initial eVEST?

    Once again, I am very pleased with the eVEST and I am sorry that I have to ask for an exchange over a very, very small defect. However, because I won’t be in the US for long and won’t be able to have easy access to the eVEST (it does make a difference when you’re half-way around the world), I’m sure you would want a perfect eVEST.

    Pls let me know. Thank you.

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  • ebeyonder September 5, 2004, 5:40 pm

    Anyway I just read about the solar eVEST… is it coming out anytime soon?

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  • laurajordan September 7, 2004, 3:55 pm

    The solar jacket will be available in time for the holidays. We will begin taking pre-orders later this month. Information aobut it will be in our September newsletter, which will go out this week.

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  • alpax September 17, 2004, 1:32 am

    I got my SCOTTeVEST Version 3.0 Spring Jacket about two weeks ago, and wear it every day since then. It’s good overall, but I’ve found some issues.

    First impression and kind of an issue for me: it’s warm! All these layered pockets make the jacket keep heat. That’s excellent for the cool weather, but it’s almost impossible to wear the vest on a sunny day even in September. It’s almost fine for the office with always working conditioning system, but still a little bit warmer than I’d like, especially the thick standing collar (even with the hood removed from there) adds some heat insulation. Personally I’d prefer a foldable collar – to keep it up outside (where it really helps in a cold weather), but fold it down inside.

    Another first note – the main front zipper is left-handed for some reason! I’m used to hold one part of zipper (the one with the slide attached) with my left hand, take another part of the zipper with right hand, insert the end into the slider, and while still holding the end with left hand, move the slider up with right hand. Now for this jacket I have to change my habits, and even after two weeks I still try to connect the zipper another way – like with all my other clothings with zipper. What was the reason for such an unusual design?

    The sleeve cuffs with Julie’s “favorite” material are also designed quite another way than I’d prefer. The cuff fastener attaches to the outer side of the cuff, where its end sticks out, doesn’t look good, and catches to the things. And the unused rest of black Velcro strip is too visible on the light “Stone”-color background of the cuff. All clothings usually have the fasteners (with snaps, buttons or Velcro) on the inner side of the cuff (between the forearm and the body) where they are basically hidden. Why not use the same approach?

    And one more thing. You won’t believe it, but I need more pockets! :D
    I’d like to have a couple of small ones inside deep hand pockets – to keep the keys there. A bottle holder elastic strip at the bottom of the left hand pocket could be attached to the bottom to form a pocket – a good place for a key chain, where it wouldn’t interfere with other items in the big pocket, and wouldn’t jingle when you’re walking. The zipper, which separates the big pocket into two sections helps a little, but that’s less comfortable, than just a small pocket-in-pocket. The right hand pocket has a very handy elastic key holder, but again, it would be very good to put the keys attached there in some small pocket inside the big one to secure them. Now they always jingle with each my step :(. I try to make a small opening in the Velcro at the back of the pocket, and put the keys there, but again that’s not as convenient as a small pocket.

    I haven’t found a good usage for the small “transparent” pockets on the left inner side. The small mesh ones are good for memory cards, but I don’t have any extra ones. Anyway I think 4 small pockets is too much. Two of them could be combined into a bigger one, where business cards can be stored, for example. I tried to put the cards into a long transparent pocket, but that one is too deep and is located so that the cards bend inside when you sit.

    There are 4 pen/stylus pockets, but I cannot use them either. A pen in the lower two can break because the jacket bends there when you sit. A pen in any of the upper two pockets tends to stick into the brest, especially when pressed by a safety belt in the car. And all these pockets are too narrow for a good pen (I don’t mean Parker, but any thicker one, which is more comfortable to hold, and some handy stylus pens by StylusCentral, for example).

    And the last thing. I’m in Canada (Vancouver), so I had to pay some duties and taxes, but frankly speaking I didn’t expect they will be so high. I already bought a couple of Pocket PCs in the US before, and the taxes were acceptable, but now I paid 55+% in addition to the jacket price! :wacko: Customs duties were quite noticeable (maybe they consider the jacket made in Korea as imported to the US?), and the customs brokers fees, which UPS also collects, were much higher than for Canada Post. This unexpected extra payment didn’t allow me to fully enjoy with my new purchase.

    But regardless of that quite sad stuff, I like the jacket very much! It has much more positive things. Finally all my stuff is well distributed in the pockets. I don’t have too much actually, but now my jeans and shirt pockets are empty, which makes me feel much more comfortable than when my PDA, wallet, keys and phone were there. I always carry with me the following: a Pocket PC, a cell phone, a small SD/MMC card reader with a short cable, a wallet, a key chain with a lot of keys, a couple of other separate keys (I put them on the elastic key holder – very useful as they are required only to open some doors), a couple of security cards for electronic locks (have to be in separate pockets to not interfere with each other when presented to the reader device, BTW, I don’t even need to take them out from the pockets), some other ID and business cards. From time to time I need to carry sunglasses, ear-phones, CD/DVD disks, photo camera, some papers, envelopes, magazines… Now I have no problem with all this – everything fits in my jacket.
    Guys, you did a great job! :D

    If the minor “bugs” I mentioned above could be fixed, that would be an ideal garment.
    Is it possible to get a free patch to upgrade to the version 3.1? ;)

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  • ebeyonder September 26, 2004, 3:35 am

    Can the Spring edition SeV hold a larger CamelBak Omega reservoir other than the 1-litre one offered for sale on the SeV website?

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  • scottevest September 26, 2004, 7:30 pm

    Yes, but it is not recommended due to the weight of the bladder when filled. We think the one we offer is best.

    Scott

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  • wondertwinzz November 5, 2004, 5:15 am

    Okay, female gadgeteer opinion here:

    I’ve been intrigued by the SCOTTeVEST line ever since I first read one of Julie’s product reviews. The vests/jackets seem very innovative and totally geared to geeks who want to carry a bunch of stuff but not look too geeky or obvious doing it.

    I, admittedly, am one of those geeks. But like Julie and Judie, I’d way prefer something on the more stylish, feminine end of the spectrum.

    SOOOO…I’d like to suggest a product line for the gadget girls of the world, starting out with:

    1) SCOTTeVEST hooded cable-knit sweater (see sample pics attached, borrowed from dillards.com)

    Sweaters are a softer, more attractive look for most women, I’d say, so I think if SeV were to line one of these classic-look puppies with the usual array of nylon pockets and compartments, you’d have quite a few happy women in line to buy it.

    2) SCOTTeVEST purse/shoulder bag (see sample pics borrowed from crumpler.com.au and ebags.com)

    I was thinking something like a cross between these two styles. The Crumpler bags are totally durable, but very sporty and woefully lacking in pockets. A Crumpler-quality bag in a feminine style with LOTS of compartments/gadget pockets would very be nice, don’t you think? And I’d guess, very popular, especially if offered in both leather and canvas.

    2) SCOTTeVEST capri cargo pants (see sample pic borrowed from bluefly.com)

    For summer, this option appeals to me most…cargo capris with enough pockets to keep the essential gear items handy. I’d even be happy with straight cargos, which would be great in the cooler months.

    These are just my dream suggestions, but maybe there’s more of a market for these (or similar) items than you’d think. I’d also like to suggest pockets or holders designed specifically for female “gadgets” like lipstick, compacts, barretts/hair elastics, unmentionables :o (seriously – guys, forget you ever read this, but women will understand :eek: ), jewelry, and the like.

    Laura Jordan, if you read this, I’d love to know what you think.

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  • One of One November 5, 2004, 8:06 am

    The jackets are a great concept, but as I’ve said SO many times before, velcro and logos just do not belong on jackets!!!

    No velcro please! There shouldn’t be one square centimeter of velcro on a jacket. Frankly, it’s tacky, unfashionable, ugly, produces a terrible sound to the ears, and it wears out.

    No logos please! The only place a jacket should have a logo, is on the inside. That’s how 99% of jackets are made. And I mean no offense, but referring to another manufacturer’s use of huge logos shouldn’t be used as a justification for plastering logos on your jacket. People will recognize your jacket by its design – have faith in the design and let the jacket speak for itself. Logos are unnecessary. Two and three logos is certainly too much. One is too much, but tolerable depending on where it’s located. The best option is to simply put a tag with your logo on the inside just below the collar, like you see with most every shirt and jacket around.

    What I’d like to see are barrel cuffs on the sleeves. No snaps, zippers, velcro, elastic, or buttons. Just nice clean barrel cuffs that don’t taper, but are of the same width as the sleeve. This way, they’ll be roomy enough for a person’s wrists, especially when wearing a bigger watch, and the sleeves overall will look much, much better by giving them cleaner lines.

    And Scott, please change the collar!!! Please make the collar fold down. You have a great concept with your jackets, but that collar has got to go! It’s just too nerdy looking.

    If you’d change the cuffs and the collar as I suggest, and remove the logos, your jackets would look so much better! I couldn’t even tell ya.

    Maybe I could snap some photos of what I’ve suggested so you can see what I’m talking about.

    Thanks for listening!

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  • Julie November 5, 2004, 12:44 pm

    wondertwinzz:
    You have some great ideas there! I like the idea of a sweater very much. You would just have to guard against it looking too bulky when carrying a lot of items in the pockets.

    I also like the idea of a gear bag. I’ve been harping to Scott about this for a long time. ;)

    As for the capri pants idea, that one isn’t up my alley ;) I bet Judie would go for it though. I’d rather have some more sporty real cargo pants with some pockets on the outside.

    One of One:
    I totally agree about the collar. I don’t like stand up collars as they rub my neck and hairline. I’m not sure exactly what you mean by barrel cuffs though. Do you mean a knitted type cuff? If so, I’m not too keen on those… they tend to get stretched after a time.

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  • Judie November 5, 2004, 2:14 pm

    wondertwinzz, I totally agree with you about the capris! I love capris, and they would be a fab addition to the line!

    I like the idea of a sweater, but I think it might be near impossible to make a “gear-sweater” without it sagging. For instance, the sweater you posted is totally cute – but see how it already has a slightly saggy look on the bottom hem – load those pockets and you would have thunder-hips…hmmmm….keep brainstorming, I like the way you think! :D

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  • wondertwinzz November 5, 2004, 6:03 pm

    Okay, I have absolutely no background in fashion design whatsoever, so this idea may be a bust, but if it were possible to have the lining of the sweater act as the pocket reservoir, and not the sweater itself…that way the sweater retains its shape while the lining does all the heavy lifting…do you think that would be a possibility?

    Of course, that might make the sweater a little warmer than usual, but that may also depend on the lining material chosen for the job.

    I’m glad you both like the ideas. It’s just crazy trying to find ways to lug your stuff discreetly, while trying to look as normal as possible. Judie got it down (in high style) with the AK bag, but something as nice as that is highly individualized and more rarified. I’d be happy aiming a little lower on the product food chain. It’d be cool to see SeV work on ideas like these, but won’t hold my breath….

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  • Julie November 5, 2004, 6:06 pm

    wondertwinzz:

    I think the current SCOTTeVEST jackets currently use a method similar to what you’re talking about. They call it a weight management system.

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  • One of One November 6, 2004, 12:00 am

    Well here are some photos of what I’m talking about.

    From the first photo, you can see what kind of fold-down collar I’d like to see on these jackets.

    In the second and third photos you can see what I mean by barrel cuffs. The jacket in the photo (granted, it’s leather) has these cuffs and they haven’t stretched out at all (Julie, you and I may have been thinking about two different things perhaps). They provide all the room someone would need even when wearing a bigger watch, without confining the wrist, so there’s no chance of anything getting stretched out. They’re just really comfortable and they give the sleeves a nice clean look that I know would look great on these jackets.

    And in the forth photo, you can see the brand-name tag found inside the jacket, just below the collar, which is what I suggested these jackets would benefit from in terms of style and logo/brand-name placement.

    The fifth photo was just to provide a look of my jacket overall. Of course, it’s on a hanger, so it’s draping and looking different than what it would if I were wearing it, but at least you get an idea.

    Hope this helps!

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  • Julie November 6, 2004, 12:22 am

    One of One:

    I’m in agreement with you on all counts.

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  • King Al November 6, 2004, 1:36 am

    One of One wrote:

    The jackets are a great concept, but as I’ve said SO many times before, velcro and logos just do not belong on jackets!!!

    No velcro please! There shouldn’t be one square centimeter of velcro on a jacket. Frankly, it’s tacky, unfashionable, ugly, produces a terrible sound to the ears, and it wears out.

    At least they got rid of the velcro on the Cotton jacket :D

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  • laurajordan November 7, 2004, 1:51 pm

    Thanks for all of the suggestions. I especially like the capri cargo pants–I had a pair the I wore all summer, but the pocket configuration was such a mess that I kept loosing my lipstick! As somebody who knits very occasionally (I’ve been trying to finish the second sleeve on a sweater for almost 2 years), I don’t think that the sweater will work (although with my limited knitting experience, I could be wrong)–the type of lining we would have to put in to accomodate wires would make it feel like you were wearing a jacket made of the lining material with the sweater over it. The purse would work, but our goal is to get away from having to carry bags,etc. Still, I understand and I agree with the style issues and the need for girlgear (less geek, more chic). I’ll talk to Scott about it and see what we can do in the future.

    wondertwinzz wrote:

    Okay, female gadgeteer opinion here:

    I’ve been intrigued by the SCOTTeVEST line ever since I first read one of Julie’s product reviews. The vests/jackets seem very innovative and totally geared to geeks who want to carry a bunch of stuff but not look too geeky or obvious doing it.

    I, admittedly, am one of those geeks. But like Julie and Judie, I’d way prefer something on the more stylish, feminine end of the spectrum.

    SOOOO…I’d like to suggest a product line for the gadget girls of the world, starting out with:

    1) SCOTTeVEST hooded cable-knit sweater (see sample pics attached, borrowed from dillards.com)

    Sweaters are a softer, more attractive look for most women, I’d say, so I think if SeV were to line one of these classic-look puppies with the usual array of nylon pockets and compartments, you’d have quite a few happy women in line to buy it.

    2) SCOTTeVEST purse/shoulder bag (see sample pics borrowed from crumpler.com.au and ebags.com)

    I was thinking something like a cross between these two styles. The Crumpler bags are totally durable, but very sporty and woefully lacking in pockets. A Crumpler-quality bag in a feminine style with LOTS of compartments/gadget pockets would very be nice, don’t you think? And I’d guess, very popular, especially if offered in both leather and canvas.

    2) SCOTTeVEST capri cargo pants (see sample pic borrowed from bluefly.com)

    For summer, this option appeals to me most…cargo capris with enough pockets to keep the essential gear items handy. I’d even be happy with straight cargos, which would be great in the cooler months.

    These are just my dream suggestions, but maybe there’s more of a market for these (or similar) items than you’d think. I’d also like to suggest pockets or holders designed specifically for female “gadgets” like lipstick, compacts, barretts/hair elastics, unmentionables :o (seriously – guys, forget you ever read this, but women will understand :eek: ), jewelry, and the like.

    Laura Jordan, if you read this, I’d love to know what you think.

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  • randerson58 November 7, 2004, 2:09 pm

    Are there any Scott eVest products available/adaptable on backpacks?

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  • laurajordan November 7, 2004, 2:17 pm

    The SCOTTeVEST product line includes jackets, vests, pants, baseball caps and ties. Although we sell a lot of accessories, we don’t produce anything for backpacks.

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  • Telemekhos November 8, 2004, 3:48 pm

    Hey,
    I am extrememly interested in the Sport Coat. The navy blue is ok, but i REALLY wish that it was available in Black. I will most likely order the navy blue for my trip to Paris in december. It will hold my coming OQO, Cell Phone, Pen, my Maximum PC Mag, etc…. Please shoot me PM if it ever comes out in Black…
    thanks,
    -T-

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