First is the responsiveness of the wheel….it is faster than 3G…which I find a problem right now…though I suppose I’ll get used to it.

Second is it undocks…..so I could use the line out jack…except I opted not to upgrade the sound system in my computer room, so I don’t have a line input to feed and stuffed into a case…it makes it hard to use the dock. Though I think there’s a pocketdock or something that has a line out…so I could do that if I wanted to use the feature.

Don’t really need to, since I could fire up iTunes…even though I find the sound level from iTunes lower than the rest of the applications on my computer…which makes it annoying.

Guess I get to see how it sounds tomorrow….

The Dreamer.

I don’t like the idea of anyone having the ability to mandate what I can do with digital files I created from CDs I purchased. It would be a real bummer if my 20GB collection of music suddenly became unusable on the hardware I want to use it with.

But that’s getting pretty off topic There are interesting posts on the topic… such as http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/ogg-vorbis-on-ipod-a-rebuttal-015738.php

(I’d also like to see FLAC support on the iPod — another unencumbered compression format, except lossless).

Sorry, that was just an oversight on my part. I had copied the specs out of the old review and forgot to delete the Windows line. It’s updated now. There’s only 1 version of the iPod now and it supports: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 (32 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible, AIFF, Apple Lossless and WAV. Sorry for the confusion.

You list AAC under audio support for Mac, but not under audio support for Windows. If Windows can’t support the AAC encoded tunes, how do Windows users use the tunes from the iTunes Music Store?

(Also, not that it probably matters, but why wouldn’t the Windows version support AIFF?)

The sales guy at the CompUSA that I was at said all of the accessories for 3G iPOD’s would work; but knowing how Apple can be, I wasn’t too sure. However, if I can get MY headset to work with the iPOD without any special or magic words, then I suspect that most of the items that fit into the headphone jack will work. I am especially interested in the DLO TransPod FM All-In-One Car Solution For 3G iPods With 30 pin Dock Connector (a powered in-vehicle dock/FM Transmitter) but its $100 bucks.

Looks like I’ll have to wait until after the MPx is released to purchase other stuff for the iPOD…

If you go to Apple’s online store, check the Education link down the left side. It’ll ask which school you belong to, and if your institution is listed, you might find a discount listed there.

Since I work for a university, I was able to save $40 on the new 40GB iPod.

There are restrictions, tho. Read the fine print carefully.

Originally posted by tthiel
Btw noone cares about Ogg Vorbis.

Forgive me for disagreeing with you, but there’s more folks (myself included) that care about the OGG Vorbis format.

Having ripped tracks to both MP3 and OGG, with the same bitrate, the OGG tracks do sound a wee bit better.

Just my two cents. Not flaming anyone here.

Originally posted by Spocky
Well, the thing is that there were extenuating circumstances that prevented me from going back to the Apple Store- I’m only 16, so I’d have had to convince my parents to take me, and I was leaving on a trip in the exact opposite direction the next day. So, the long and short of it is that I’m SOL and that I still think that Apple shouldn’t be so secretive about their product releases.

if you’re that annoyed, start following rumor sites like macrumors.com…apple is a business. they won’t tell you “don’t buy” unless its an extenuating circumstance (ie the new imacs). In most cases, you can do a little research and stumble across a buyers guide or speculations that will tell you when a new product is expected to be released. People knew the G5 was coming out ahead of time due to leaks, but that didnt stop apple from selling G4 towers. The burden is on you, the consumer, to decide if you want to wait to upgrade or not. And hey, is your current 3g really that bad? if it works, and you’re happy, great.
And apple does have price drop protection, tho i don’t know if it works when the product itself changes.

I will try to come back next week and get it; or will purchase it from Apple and have it shipped to the office.

Bummer. I really wanted to play with it over the weekend. Now, I’ll have to wait until next week…

How much music do you have? If I were buying one, I’d want to make sure that I had room for every single CD that I own and then probably 10gb or more left for future music. My 40gb is half full. Probably more than that now as a friend at work just let me borrow a stack of his CDs to rip <shhhhhhh>

However, even tho I have a 2215 and a 2GB microdrive, it doesn’t hold enough. I’ve nearly filled the drive, don’t want to erase the tunes on it, but have really gotten tired of the stuff that I have on it. I don’t want to buy a 4GB microdrive, because for the price of THAT I can have an iPOD, Dell JukeBox, or other player…

The question I have is, aside from double the storage and the dock, is there any OTHER advantage to the 40GB model over the 20GB model?

I sold my T3 this week and have a little mad money and have been thinking of purchasing a digital music player despite my reasoning and logic for using my PPC. While it would make me carry yet another device, and would require me to either convert or rerip my entire CD collection, and purchase a FireWire or USB2 PC Card, I am to the point where I don’t care. I want to justify the purchase of one or just plain get over it and live with what I have…

I am planning on going to the local CompUSA at lunch to put my hands on one. Can anyone give me a hand, here? Julie..? Help..?

Originally posted by chriszzz
[B]Well, it wouldn’t really help. If Apple had announced their 4G, say, 4 weeks earlier, and someone bought their 3G 5weeks earlier, they’ll still have “missed” by 1 week, and will be feeling equally lousy.

That said, I’m glad I didn’t rush out for a mini or 3G earlier. Was resisting the temptation. Looks like I did the right thing !

BTW, don’t do the dishonest thing. Just drive over and return it. 250 miles ain’t so bad. Take a 2nd vacation It’s only 4 hours drive. [/B]

Well, the thing is that there were extenuating circumstances that prevented me from going back to the Apple Store- I’m only 16, so I’d have had to convince my parents to take me, and I was leaving on a trip in the exact opposite direction the next day. So, the long and short of it is that I’m SOL and that I still think that Apple shouldn’t be so secretive about their product releases.

Originally posted by Spocky
really, really, really needs to be less secretive about their product releases, so people don’t buy a 3G iPod at an Apple store 250 miles away, while on vacation, a week (exactly) before they released the 4G iPod, and aren’t able to return it because you have to return it in person. That’s what they need to do, yes. On a completely different subject, does anybody have any suggestions for a way to subtly sabotage an iPod so one can return it for a refund?

Well, it wouldn’t really help. If Apple had announced their 4G, say, 4 weeks earlier, and someone bought their 3G 5weeks earlier, they’ll still have “missed” by 1 week, and will be feeling equally lousy.

That said, I’m glad I didn’t rush out for a mini or 3G earlier. Was resisting the temptation. Looks like I did the right thing !

BTW, don’t do the dishonest thing. Just drive over and return it. 250 miles ain’t so bad. Take a 2nd vacation It’s only 4 hours drive.

I dont think there is any diff between the dock I have for my 3rd gen 30gb and this new 40gb. As a matter of fact, I’m still using it with both.

The first few days the 4th gen was available, the accessories website had separate listings for most of the items and specified “new click wheel model” or “touch wheel model”. They seem to have now changed that and only the cases and docks have the distinction noted. I guess a change in size required the new docks?

Spocky,

Sounds like a road trip over the next weekend. Anything else is illegal amd just plain sleezy. Although I do empathize with your situation. Most companies have a pricing policy that will allow an adjustment if a price drops just after a purchase. Are you sure Apple doesn’t?