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		<title>By: JoAnn</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2004/04/22/surplus_pda_sony_clie_th55_face_plates_review/comment-page-1/#comment-19534</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff is right, the points are actually fairly sharp and are harder steel than most screws.    (Yes, I used to do a bit of guitar repair - StewMac is a good source for those specialty tools one can&#039;t make oneself!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff is right, the points are actually fairly sharp and are harder steel than most screws.    (Yes, I used to do a bit of guitar repair &#8211; StewMac is a good source for those specialty tools one can&#8217;t make oneself!)</p>
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		<title>By: jprunkard</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2004/04/22/surplus_pda_sony_clie_th55_face_plates_review/comment-page-1/#comment-19533</link>
		<dc:creator>jprunkard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The star pattern will serve the same purpose as the two round bosses on the screwdrivers I&#039;m familiar with.  As you push down on the handle, the points of the star &quot;bite&quot; into the marred screwhead, preventing the slippage that caused the problem in the first place.

I haven&#039;t seen those little suckers before.  Might have to get some for myself!

- Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The star pattern will serve the same purpose as the two round bosses on the screwdrivers I&#8217;m familiar with.  As you push down on the handle, the points of the star &#8220;bite&#8221; into the marred screwhead, preventing the slippage that caused the problem in the first place.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen those little suckers before.  Might have to get some for myself!</p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoAnn:

It&#039;s hard to tell from the pictures if these little screw drivers would actually work in the strange screw head that Sony chose to use. The ones you link to, look like they have a star pattern to them. Am I missing something?

On another note, are you a guitar player? Just curious because of the link to Stewart MacDonald.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoAnn:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to tell from the pictures if these little screw drivers would actually work in the strange screw head that Sony chose to use. The ones you link to, look like they have a star pattern to them. Am I missing something?</p>
<p>On another note, are you a guitar player? Just curious because of the link to Stewart MacDonald.<br />
 <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoAnn</title>
		<link>http://the-gadgeteer.com/2004/04/22/surplus_pda_sony_clie_th55_face_plates_review/comment-page-1/#comment-19531</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie - I wince in sympathy at your stripped screws.  Here&#039;s another source for screw extractors in smaller sizes: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Screwdrivers/Screw_Extractor_Set.html&quot;&gt;http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Screwdrivers/Screw_Extractor_Set.html&lt;/a&gt;

I have a set of these and they do work nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie &#8211; I wince in sympathy at your stripped screws.  Here&#8217;s another source for screw extractors in smaller sizes: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Screwdrivers/Screw_Extractor_Set.html">http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Screwdrivers/Screw_Extractor_Set.html</a></p>
<p>I have a set of these and they do work nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: sdkat2</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdkat2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Originally posted by Julie &lt;/em&gt;
[B]drewgolden:

I&#039;ve got a better idea, I&#039;ll just take off the flip cover and fill in the gaps with the plugs I received from 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glblsrc.com&quot;&gt;http://www.glblsrc.com&lt;/a&gt;

BTW: if you want these plugs, you can get free shipping if you use the code: the-gadgeteer

The code expires on 4/30. [/B]&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I really like those plugs.   After I removed the cover to continue in my effort to get the stripped screw out I decided to try the plugs I ordered from GlobalSource a few weeks back.     I kept the plugs in for a day but it sort of felt &quot;naked&quot; even though it was in the Brando case so I put the faceplate back on.     I think with the right case, such as a slim Vaja or Sena I would leave them in to make the TH55 more pocketable.   I&#039;m anxiously awaiting case releases from these two companies to see if they tailor them to the TH55 without the faceplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Originally posted by Julie </em><br />
[B]drewgolden:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a better idea, I&#8217;ll just take off the flip cover and fill in the gaps with the plugs I received from<br />
<a href="http://www.glblsrc.com">http://www.glblsrc.com</a></p>
<p>BTW: if you want these plugs, you can get free shipping if you use the code: the-gadgeteer</p>
<p>The code expires on 4/30. [/B]</p></blockquote>
<p>I really like those plugs.   After I removed the cover to continue in my effort to get the stripped screw out I decided to try the plugs I ordered from GlobalSource a few weeks back.     I kept the plugs in for a day but it sort of felt &#8220;naked&#8221; even though it was in the Brando case so I put the faceplate back on.     I think with the right case, such as a slim Vaja or Sena I would leave them in to make the TH55 more pocketable.   I&#8217;m anxiously awaiting case releases from these two companies to see if they tailor them to the TH55 without the faceplate.</p>
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		<title>By: Judie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Originally posted by drewgolden &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Judie - use a softer stylus - like a q-tip - and the digitizer may last a bit longer.  And if it DOES break again - quickly pack it back in the box and RETURN it for a REFUND - then get a new one with a fresh digitizer :-) &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I thought about using a q-tip, but it is so much more fun to use my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/bolt-zodiac-stylus-review.html&quot;&gt;sterling silver bolt stylus&lt;/a&gt;  with my Zodiac2. No need to baby &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; PDA. Plus it is nice to have a stylus that doesn&#039;t cramp your hand in the first five minutes of use! ;)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Originally posted by drewgolden </em><br />
<strong>Judie &#8211; use a softer stylus &#8211; like a q-tip &#8211; and the digitizer may last a bit longer.  And if it DOES break again &#8211; quickly pack it back in the box and RETURN it for a REFUND &#8211; then get a new one with a fresh digitizer <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </strong></p></blockquote>
<p>I thought about using a q-tip, but it is so much more fun to use my <a href="http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/bolt-zodiac-stylus-review.html">sterling silver bolt stylus</a>  with my Zodiac2. No need to baby <strong>that</strong> PDA. Plus it is nice to have a stylus that doesn&#8217;t cramp your hand in the first five minutes of use! <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 02:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drewgolden:

I&#039;ve got a better idea, I&#039;ll just take off the flip cover and fill in the gaps with the plugs I received from 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glblsrc.com&quot;&gt;http://www.glblsrc.com&lt;/a&gt;

BTW: if you want these plugs, you can get free shipping if you use the code: the-gadgeteer

The code expires on 4/30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drewgolden:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a better idea, I&#8217;ll just take off the flip cover and fill in the gaps with the plugs I received from<br />
<a href="http://www.glblsrc.com">http://www.glblsrc.com</a></p>
<p>BTW: if you want these plugs, you can get free shipping if you use the code: the-gadgeteer</p>
<p>The code expires on 4/30.</p>
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		<title>By: drewgolden</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewgolden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies:

Please stay away from the TH55s.

First Judie gets one and manages to break the digitizer safely inside the first two weeks of ownership.  (Okay, IT broke, maybe she DIDN&#039;T do it, but nonetheless it DID break, somehow.)

Then Julie gets one and manages to strip the faceplate screws attempting to &#039;improve&#039; on a fairly good design.  (In this case, the blame CLEARLY rests with the screwdriver, and not the Gadgeteer correctly operating the screwdriver.)  Yeah, I know those faceplate fingerprints can be ANNOYING.  But I&#039;m certain they&#039;re less annoying than staring at a STRIPPED screw on the finger-print laden faceplate.

(Julie, you&#039;ll end up with a refreb assuming you can pass the blame back to Sony for making a strippable screw.)

My free advise:

Julie - go back to the Palm III.  Faceplate easily snaps on and off, no need for potential faceplate damaging screw drivers.

Judie - use a softer stylus - like a q-tip - and the digitizer may last a bit longer.  And if it DOES break again - quickly pack it back in the box and RETURN it for a REFUND - then get a new one with a fresh digitizer :-)

Great luck!
drew

ps.  Just taking a fun jab girls - have a great weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies:</p>
<p>Please stay away from the TH55s.</p>
<p>First Judie gets one and manages to break the digitizer safely inside the first two weeks of ownership.  (Okay, IT broke, maybe she DIDN&#8217;T do it, but nonetheless it DID break, somehow.)</p>
<p>Then Julie gets one and manages to strip the faceplate screws attempting to &#8216;improve&#8217; on a fairly good design.  (In this case, the blame CLEARLY rests with the screwdriver, and not the Gadgeteer correctly operating the screwdriver.)  Yeah, I know those faceplate fingerprints can be ANNOYING.  But I&#8217;m certain they&#8217;re less annoying than staring at a STRIPPED screw on the finger-print laden faceplate.</p>
<p>(Julie, you&#8217;ll end up with a refreb assuming you can pass the blame back to Sony for making a strippable screw.)</p>
<p>My free advise:</p>
<p>Julie &#8211; go back to the Palm III.  Faceplate easily snaps on and off, no need for potential faceplate damaging screw drivers.</p>
<p>Judie &#8211; use a softer stylus &#8211; like a q-tip &#8211; and the digitizer may last a bit longer.  And if it DOES break again &#8211; quickly pack it back in the box and RETURN it for a REFUND &#8211; then get a new one with a fresh digitizer <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great luck!<br />
drew</p>
<p>ps.  Just taking a fun jab girls &#8211; have a great weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sdkat2:

I hope you don&#039;t take this the wrong way, but I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one that this happened to... Only because I don&#039;t like giving a bad review to a product if it doesn&#039;t deserve a bad review. Sounds like I was right on the mark with this one though... :rolleyes:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdkat2:</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t take this the wrong way, but I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one that this happened to&#8230; Only because I don&#8217;t like giving a bad review to a product if it doesn&#8217;t deserve a bad review. Sounds like I was right on the mark with this one though&#8230; :rolleyes:</p>
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		<title>By: sdkat2</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdkat2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You aren&#039;t alone.    One of my screws was stripped by the screwdriver as well.   I now have a faceplate I can&#039;t use.   I even tried removing the cover as per Sony&#039;s instructions with the bracket intact and no way could I get that one darned screw out.   I added a couple of scratches to my faceplate trying.  I just put it back together and will keep it as is until a better solution comes along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t alone.    One of my screws was stripped by the screwdriver as well.   I now have a faceplate I can&#8217;t use.   I even tried removing the cover as per Sony&#8217;s instructions with the bracket intact and no way could I get that one darned screw out.   I added a couple of scratches to my faceplate trying.  I just put it back together and will keep it as is until a better solution comes along.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff:

Thanks for the tip! I&#039;ll have to check it out. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff:</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip! I&#8217;ll have to check it out. <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jprunkard</title>
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		<dc:creator>jprunkard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, 

I am a first poster and am not sure if this belongs here or not.  However, with the fate of your face plate screws, I wanted to at least let you know there could be an quick fix for your problem.

There is a special screwdriver made to remove safety, or &quot;one way&quot; screws (like the ones you see holding the bathroom stalls together) and they also work great for removing stripped screws as well.  See the link below for a picture.

I used to work in a hardware store and know these are readily available.  However, most locksmiths keep them in their toolboxes, so perhaps you could take your trusty Sony to your local lock guy and he could remove the screws for you.

Hope this helps.

- Jeff

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shifflerequip.com/detail.phtml?cat_id=10&amp;subcat_id=148&amp;subsubcat_id=289&amp;product_id=19737&quot;&gt;http://www.shifflerequip.com/detail.phtml?cat_id=10&amp;subcat_id=148&amp;subsubcat_id=289&amp;product_id=19737&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, </p>
<p>I am a first poster and am not sure if this belongs here or not.  However, with the fate of your face plate screws, I wanted to at least let you know there could be an quick fix for your problem.</p>
<p>There is a special screwdriver made to remove safety, or &#8220;one way&#8221; screws (like the ones you see holding the bathroom stalls together) and they also work great for removing stripped screws as well.  See the link below for a picture.</p>
<p>I used to work in a hardware store and know these are readily available.  However, most locksmiths keep them in their toolboxes, so perhaps you could take your trusty Sony to your local lock guy and he could remove the screws for you.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shifflerequip.com/detail.phtml?cat_id=10&#038;subcat_id=148&#038;subsubcat_id=289&#038;product_id=19737">http://www.shifflerequip.com/detail.phtml?cat_id=10&#038;subcat_id=148&#038;subsubcat_id=289&#038;product_id=19737</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or leather, or wood... Something &#039;different&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or leather, or wood&#8230; Something &#8216;different&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: palmsup</title>
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		<dc:creator>palmsup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really interested in a plastic cover, but because of the size and color of the TH55, I think someone should made a perforated brass cover (ala Star Trek communicator from the original 60&#039;s series).  Then if it would just chirp / beep when flipped open :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really interested in a plastic cover, but because of the size and color of the TH55, I think someone should made a perforated brass cover (ala Star Trek communicator from the original 60&#8242;s series).  Then if it would just chirp / beep when flipped open <img src='http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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