Comments on: Palm m125 Review http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/ Gadget reviews and news by Julie Strietelmeier and friends since 1997 Fri, 25 May 2012 16:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-144263 Bob DeLoyd Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:15:18 +0000 #comment-144263 @GorT, you really have me lost on your last post... I'm not sure how we got to this point... I tried to help... I'm done here... Good luck on your search for the ultimate in old PDAs :) @GorT, you really have me lost on your last post…
I’m not sure how we got to this point… I tried to help… I’m done here…
Good luck on your search for the ultimate in old PDAs :)

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-144244 GorT Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:54:55 +0000 #comment-144244 :) I intentionally didn't answer here to see if someone would mention Handspring Treo 180 - as it was basically what i said in the previous message (a RIM 957 with touchscreen). But I like those AAA easily replaceable battery type PDA-s - so this is why I'm writing here again: Was there ever a replacement cover for some model of monochromatic Palm PDA's which had buttons in it which then press on he touchscreen (something like Ericsson R380, but full QWERTY)? :) I intentionally didn’t answer here to see if someone would mention Handspring Treo 180 – as it was basically what i said in the previous message (a RIM 957 with touchscreen).

But I like those AAA easily replaceable battery type PDA-s – so this is why I’m writing here again:

Was there ever a replacement cover for some model of monochromatic Palm PDA’s which had buttons in it which then press on he touchscreen (something like Ericsson R380, but full QWERTY)?

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-143091 GorT Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:24:07 +0000 #comment-143091 Hmm... It's a digital typewriter - it's large, I had a pocket device in mind. BlackBerry RIM 957 would be what I'm talking about if it was a bit smaller and had touchscreen. Hmm… It’s a digital typewriter – it’s large, I had a pocket device in mind.

BlackBerry RIM 957 would be what I’m talking about if it was a bit smaller and had touchscreen.

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-143083 Bob DeLoyd Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:41:24 +0000 #comment-143083 @GorT I'm not sure about a "professional writer could write a whole entire novel on BlackBerry RIM 950", but I do know that they have done it on the AlphaSmart Dana- There's a whole forum website of writers who use the Dana. You can pick one up for around 30 bucks: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=AlphaSmart+Dana&_sacat=0&_odkw=alphmico+dana&_osacat=0&_from=R40 Maybe the Dana is much larger than you would want, but it has a very nice keyboard and uses the Palm OS; can even type directly to a computer running Win98SE to XP... I own a Dana :) @GorT I’m not sure about a “professional writer could write a whole entire novel on BlackBerry RIM 950″, but I do know that they have done it on the AlphaSmart Dana- There’s a whole forum website of writers who use the Dana.
You can pick one up for around 30 bucks:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=AlphaSmart+Dana&_sacat=0&_odkw=alphmico+dana&_osacat=0&_from=R40

Maybe the Dana is much larger than you would want, but it has a very nice keyboard and uses the Palm OS; can even type directly to a computer running Win98SE to XP… I own a Dana :)

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-143080 GorT Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:16:19 +0000 #comment-143080 Well... it's a wide subject really... it could turn out to be a long comment... ... As a mater of fact - recently I was actually comparing what I can do with my old CASIO I cannot do with some regular paper notepad (vice versa!). ...And actually those are totally different categories. In my CASIO I can store various passwords for various sites I use - and keep it all under one (PDA's) password so no one else could access it - if I was to write it in a paper notepad anyone could read it and misuse it. Also: PDA allows for searching - enter ANY word and it will find it - and quick. Also: even some of the oldest CASIO PDAs have games (poker for example; not to mention variety one could get on Palm devices for example) - that interactivity one cannot get on a piece of paper. This is one important point: when you write text on paper it gets messy, yet - in digital form you can insert text, reorganize it easily and much more - it's more malleable and yet tidy - anecdotally speaking: I am sure some professional writer could write a whole entire novel on BlackBerry RIM 950 while traveling or sitting anywhere outside in the sun (it can work for weeks on single AA alkaline battery! - it's something one cannot possibly do with modern color screen devices), then go straight to the publisher, copy the text, paste it into Word, check it, shape it, and - voila - it goes straight to the press! :D Instant bestseller! :) Well… it’s a wide subject really… it could turn out to be a long comment… …

As a mater of fact – recently I was actually comparing what I can do with my old CASIO I cannot do with some regular paper notepad (vice versa!). …And actually those are totally different categories. In my CASIO I can store various passwords for various sites I use – and keep it all under one (PDA’s) password so no one else could access it – if I was to write it in a paper notepad anyone could read it and misuse it. Also: PDA allows for searching – enter ANY word and it will find it – and quick. Also: even some of the oldest CASIO PDAs have games (poker for example; not to mention variety one could get on Palm devices for example) – that interactivity one cannot get on a piece of paper.

This is one important point: when you write text on paper it gets messy, yet – in digital form you can insert text, reorganize it easily and much more – it’s more malleable and yet tidy – anecdotally speaking: I am sure some professional writer could write a whole entire novel on BlackBerry RIM 950 while traveling or sitting anywhere outside in the sun (it can work for weeks on single AA alkaline battery! – it’s something one cannot possibly do with modern color screen devices), then go straight to the publisher, copy the text, paste it into Word, check it, shape it, and – voila – it goes straight to the press! :D Instant bestseller! :)

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-143078 Julie Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:37:04 +0000 #comment-143078 @GorT What you're describing (minus a keyboard) is a Moleskine notebook. :) Sorry, could't resist. In all seriousness, there really seems to be a void in the market for a KISS (keep it simple stupid) PDA. @GorT What you’re describing (minus a keyboard) is a Moleskine notebook. :) Sorry, could’t resist. In all seriousness, there really seems to be a void in the market for a KISS (keep it simple stupid) PDA.

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-143077 GorT Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:31:42 +0000 #comment-143077 Because I don't want to worry about batteries (batteries on modern devices last for 4-5h of constant use). Ideal unit for me would be the compact small pocketable one that has monochromatic touchscreen you can draw on, QWERTY keyboard you could write even a short story on, a minimum of 2 MB of memory (preferably 8MB), and batteries which could work for days without any attendance... But is there such device? (I see BlackBerry RIM 957 - that's what I'm talking about - but it doesn't have touchscreen, and it's too big - so tell me is there something that looks like what I search for) Because I don’t want to worry about batteries (batteries on modern devices last for 4-5h of constant use). Ideal unit for me would be the compact small pocketable one that has monochromatic touchscreen you can draw on, QWERTY keyboard you could write even a short story on, a minimum of 2 MB of memory (preferably 8MB), and batteries which could work for days without any attendance… But is there such device?
(I see BlackBerry RIM 957 – that’s what I’m talking about – but it doesn’t have touchscreen, and it’s too big – so tell me is there something that looks like what I search for)

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-142652 Bob DeLoyd Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:44:35 +0000 #comment-142652 @GorT I don't think they held any PDA marathons- Depending on use, I feel that any Palm with 2MB memory that used good AAA alkaline batteries (they hold their charge longer, rechargeable batteries drain faster) would be your best bet. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/travel/pda5.htm May I ask three questions? :) Why, and for what purpose do you want to know? Bob @GorT I don’t think they held any PDA marathons- Depending on use, I feel that any Palm with 2MB memory that used good AAA alkaline batteries (they hold their charge longer, rechargeable batteries drain faster) would be your best bet.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/travel/pda5.htm

May I ask three questions? :)
Why, and for what purpose do you want to know?
Bob

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-142406 GorT Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:02:58 +0000 #comment-142406 Nice. ...But what PDA holds the record for the longest battery life (with 2-8MB of memory and touchscreen)? (I have one old style CASIO PDA with QWERTY keyboard - batteries on it last between 6 and 8 months! - But it has only 128kB of memory) Nice.

…But what PDA holds the record for the longest battery life (with 2-8MB of memory and touchscreen)?
(I have one old style CASIO PDA with QWERTY keyboard – batteries on it last between 6 and 8 months! – But it has only 128kB of memory)

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-142214 Bob DeLoyd Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:54:54 +0000 #comment-142214 @GorT hcollins says he used a single AAA battery. I don't think it would cause any damage because you are replacing a weak AAA battery. GorT here's something interesting I found for the M125 that may work for the others when changing batteries: http://forums.hpwebos.com/t5/Palm-OS-WinMo-Hardware/How-to-change-the-batteries-on-a-palm-m125-without-having-to-do/td-p/169146 I'm going to check this out on my M105 and M125... I imagine if you put fresh high quality AAAs in a M105 or similar PDA and turned it off for 6 months and not used it, it might power back up... Otherwise it's something like 8 weeks or less depending on use... make sure you turn off the infrared :) @GorT
hcollins says he used a single AAA battery. I don’t think it would cause any damage because you are replacing a weak AAA battery.

GorT here’s something interesting I found for the M125 that may work for the others when changing batteries: http://forums.hpwebos.com/t5/Palm-OS-WinMo-Hardware/How-to-change-the-batteries-on-a-palm-m125-without-having-to-do/td-p/169146
I’m going to check this out on my M105 and M125…

I imagine if you put fresh high quality AAAs in a M105 or similar PDA and turned it off for 6 months and not used it, it might power back up… Otherwise it’s something like 8 weeks or less depending on use… make sure you turn off the infrared :)

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-142181 GorT Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:43:58 +0000 #comment-142181 Thanks. :) Hmm... Isn't putting a battery in parallel with another battery increasing the current (amperage)? ...To be on the safe side it's better to use weak battery for that purpose. Anyhow - I see this model is very similar to m105: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_CLI%C3%89_PEG-SL10 (using AAA batteries - 320x320px monochromatic display) But here is a question: what 8MB PDA has the longest battery life? (like 6 months or something) Thanks. :)

Hmm… Isn’t putting a battery in parallel with another battery increasing the current (amperage)? …To be on the safe side it’s better to use weak battery for that purpose.

Anyhow – I see this model is very similar to m105:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_CLI%C3%89_PEG-SL10
(using AAA batteries – 320x320px monochromatic display)

But here is a question: what 8MB PDA has the longest battery life? (like 6 months or something)

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-141753 Bob DeLoyd Sun, 25 Mar 2012 01:25:38 +0000 #comment-141753 @GorT Look here: http://www.pspilot.de/pppm100/pppm100.html http://www.lxtreme.nl/index.pl/docs/misc/m105_hack I thought this was clever and what you may be looking to do :) http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13024.html hcollins writes: "I also suffer the same problem. Have now made a single AAA battery with short leads and flat pieces of shim brass that I wedged into the end of the battery that I was looking at replacing. Swapped the battery and then removed the supplementary battery. I then did the same for the other battery. Replaced both batteries and didn't need to rebuild the Palm from scratch. Virtually cost nothing and didn't have to dismantle the Palm. All the supplementary battery is doing is being used in parallel with the one you are replacing each time. Hope this helps those who aren't quite technical enough to mess with the innards of a Palm Pilot." Oh and GorT remember these hacks will VOID your Palm Warranty :P I hope this helps you GorT @GorT
Look here:
http://www.pspilot.de/pppm100/pppm100.html
http://www.lxtreme.nl/index.pl/docs/misc/m105_hack

I thought this was clever and what you may be looking to do :)
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13024.html
hcollins writes:
“I also suffer the same problem. Have now made a single AAA battery with short leads and flat pieces of shim brass that I wedged into the end of the battery that I was looking at replacing. Swapped the battery and then removed the supplementary battery. I then did the same for the other battery. Replaced both batteries and didn’t need to rebuild the Palm from scratch. Virtually cost nothing and didn’t have to dismantle the Palm. All the supplementary battery is doing is being used in parallel with the one you are replacing each time. Hope this helps those who aren’t quite technical enough to mess with the innards of a Palm Pilot.”

Oh and GorT remember these hacks will VOID your Palm Warranty :P
I hope this helps you GorT

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-141738 GorT Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:49:34 +0000 #comment-141738 Regarding the capacitor issue – is it possible to externally connect some capacitor to battery terminals while they are still in, then get the batteries out and put the new ones, so the data doesn't get erased? Regarding the capacitor issue – is it possible to externally connect some capacitor to battery terminals while they are still in, then get the batteries out and put the new ones, so the data doesn’t get erased?

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-141158 Bob DeLoyd Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:26:58 +0000 #comment-141158 I don't think it matters much- if you enjoy messing around with the old stuff (I do) you can buy both on ebay. The M125 does have a memory expansion slot and a faster processor. But the backup-capacitor used in the m100 / m105 / m125 go bad after a few years; change your batteries you lose your data :P Palm IIIxe 16 MHz Motorola 68328EZ Dragonball can be upgraded to 4.1 Cost around $15-50 used on ebay. The m125 is powered by the Motorola VZ Dragonball processor operating at 33MHz, OS 4.0- can not be upgraded to 4.1 Has an MultiMediaCard memory expansion slot. Cost about the same maybe a little more. I don’t think it matters much- if you enjoy messing around with the old stuff (I do) you can buy both on ebay. The M125 does have a memory expansion slot and a faster processor. But the backup-capacitor used in the m100 / m105 / m125 go bad after a few years; change your batteries you lose your data :P

Palm IIIxe 16 MHz Motorola 68328EZ Dragonball can be upgraded to 4.1 Cost around $15-50 used on ebay.

The m125 is powered by the Motorola VZ Dragonball processor operating at 33MHz, OS 4.0- can not be upgraded to 4.1
Has an MultiMediaCard memory expansion slot.
Cost about the same maybe a little more.

]]> By: GorT http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-141100 GorT Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:18:52 +0000 #comment-141100 Although Palm IIIxe has 2MB of ROM opposed to m125's 4MB - the Palm IIIxe's ROM is upgradable so the Palm IIIxe seems better. ...Does it matter - what are your opinions? Although Palm IIIxe has 2MB of ROM opposed to m125′s 4MB – the Palm IIIxe’s ROM is upgradable so the Palm IIIxe seems better.

…Does it matter – what are your opinions?

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-132375 Bob DeLoyd Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:26:26 +0000 #comment-132375 @Julie I do enjoy tinkering around with the old stuff. I have the Palm Desktop installed on a Win98SE laptop and might play around with the M125 and also the TWO M105's I recently bought (Both less than $10- there was a Palm refurbished M500 on eBay I stopped myself from purchasing). I came to the conclusion last night when I was searching for a replacement for the bad capacitor on the M105, that the iTouch I own is a multitudes far better than what's was built back then and anything on the market right now to serve my needs; I do like watching lectures from Berkeley, listening to astronomy lectures, emailing, taking and posting photos on FaceBook..... the list goes on :) But I might just pop the M125 into my backpack once in a while; it does have a nice form factor :) @Julie I do enjoy tinkering around with the old stuff. I have the Palm Desktop installed on a Win98SE laptop and might play around with the M125 and also the TWO M105′s I recently bought (Both less than $10- there was a Palm refurbished M500 on eBay I stopped myself from purchasing). I came to the conclusion last night when I was searching for a replacement for the bad capacitor on the M105, that the iTouch I own is a multitudes far better than what’s was built back then and anything on the market right now to serve my needs; I do like watching lectures from Berkeley, listening to astronomy lectures, emailing, taking and posting photos on FaceBook….. the list goes on :)
But I might just pop the M125 into my backpack once in a while; it does have a nice form factor :)

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-132277 Julie Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:59:01 +0000 #comment-132277 @Bob That is cool. So, are you going to start using the M125 again? @Bob That is cool. So, are you going to start using the M125 again?

]]> By: Bob DeLoyd http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-132219 Bob DeLoyd Mon, 16 Jan 2012 06:13:41 +0000 #comment-132219 @Julie I just got my Palm M125 back together after it stopped working, was taken apart, and then stored for almost ten years :P I was looking for info on the M125 and was reading Wikipedia on it when I saw a link to this post as a reference, cool :) @Julie I just got my Palm M125 back together after it stopped working, was taken apart, and then stored for almost ten years :P
I was looking for info on the M125 and was reading Wikipedia on it when I saw a link to this post as a reference, cool :)

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-15453 Julie Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:01:17 +0000 #comment-15453 Unfortunately, I no longer have the watch... :o Unfortunately, I no longer have the watch… :o

]]> By: blue_gundam2002 http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-15452 blue_gundam2002 Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:14:12 +0000 #comment-15452 I'm going to order one of the watches soon and I wanted to make sure it would fit my wrist. I checked the laks web site but couldn't find the length ot the strap. Can any one tell me the length of the strap? I’m going to order one of the watches soon and I wanted to make sure it would fit my wrist. I checked the laks web site but couldn’t find the length ot the strap. Can any one tell me the length of the strap?

]]> By: Julie http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-15451 Julie Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:31:50 +0000 #comment-15451 Wow, I really like the looks of it too! Wow, I really like the looks of it too!

]]> By: blue_gundam2002 http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-15450 blue_gundam2002 Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:31:22 +0000 #comment-15450 Just to let you know LAKS now makes a ladies version, <a href="http://www.laks.com/">http://www.laks.com/</a> Just to let you know LAKS now makes a ladies version, http://www.laks.com/

]]> By: eichin http://the-gadgeteer.com/2001/09/19/palm_m125_review/comment-page-1/#comment-15449 eichin Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:52:21 +0000 #comment-15449 I just wish that one could use the USB port to *set* the watch... I just wish that one could use the USB port to *set* the watch…

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